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Military bases are spread throughout the country though. If Defense is hard hit it will be noticed.
It's the entitlement complex that is ultimately the problem. If your job is cut because of sequestration, you are going to blame someone...regardless of the fact the spending cuts are inevitable and necessary.
It's the NIMBY ideal. We all want the deficit to be reduced, but 100% of us do not want the reduction to affect us in any way.
Not directly relevant to this thread, but Mitch McConnell is making some moves to make sure he has Rand Paul's endorsement
The federal government currently puts hemp in the same category of illegal drug as heroin, LSD and ecstasy -- but the Senate's top Republican wants to change that. Senate Minority Leader
I'll take adjustments to SS and Medicare that effect me down the road if they shut down the programs right now so that anyone under the age of 18 never knows they existed. Keep everyone in now in, but draw a line when they won't exist anymore.
The impact will be trickle down. There are so many communites supported by Fed work beyond just military as well as so many that include federal workers as part of the economy. Swipe 20 percent of the paycheck and the support for the small business (and large too) is gone. It's just too logical.
Take my little part of FAA, we make ALL the maps for the 400 plus air traffic control towers and all Tracons in the U.S. and territories as well as supporting some countries without this technology. Our staff will take a 30 percent cut with temporary appointment firings, with an additional three folks eligible to retire this year. And they will retire.
So, bottom line...4 full time employees will be maintaining a suite of 13000 air traffic control maps that land every plane, large and small, in the U.S. Not gonna happen...so my very educated recommendation is that if the sequester happens, take your car wherever you plan to go.
A few things that came out of the meeting with our Administrator this week:
**temporary appointment firings must happen before permanent employees can be furloughed. We are trying to get the answer whether temps can be furloughed to avoid such a loss of staffing. No one will answer this question...which is an answer in itself.
**There are no essential and non-essential employees this time around.
**FAA employees are facing between 11 and 22 days. If 22 days of furlough are required and taken, the employee cannot take another furlough period until 1 year from the start of the last one. Because of this stipulation, RIFs may be necessary.
I could go on but you get the picture. We'll take a 120 percent hit in our household when I get fired from my temporary term appointment. Gotta love it...
Have a good day!
The Bad News Elf
And we have a recess for a week...
Stick a fork in 'em. They are DONE!
The House and Senate each voted Friday to recess for the President's Day week, which means once Congress returns, it will have just four days to deal with the $85 billion sequester due to take effect March 1. House Republicans have said they will not act on any bill to avoid the sequester until the Senate does first.
Recess appointments for everyone!! Maybe Chuck Hagel can get one.
My FAA friends are quite worried after the two week furlough last year.
Just some rambling about the coming sequester from my workplace.
I'm a research engineer working at the Naval Surface Warfare Center, over in Carderock. We have already told our ex-DOD (now retired) part-time contractors to stop coming in. The reason is to reduce our burn rate on contractor labor, to preserve for a while longer the jobs of all the young engineers we have working with us (40 or so in my division of 150 people) since they have no other source of income. Between that and moving all the money we could out to the contracting company we have been able to extend them from March to May, and should be able to extend a little farther before we have to fire them.
I have told the young contractors who work for me that (a) they should have their resumes together and be looking for non-federal jobs and (b) if this ever gets straightened out we will be calling to hire them back. Unfortunately the best ones will be long gone. Permanent loss for our organization since we have invested training in all of them, and we use contracting labor as our tool for evaluating potential government hires, cherry-picking the best of them. In this way we try them out, rather than hiring direct and being stuck with a dud we can't fire for the next 30 years. So I would say the cost to us will be around 60 man-years of training and climbing the learning curve (assuming we lose half, average experience level of 3 years), and a half-generation of our pipeline of standout government engineers gone with the wind. Crippling down the road, and incredibly discouraging for those of us who run a team and carefully hire and train young people. The arbitrary and unnecessary nature of this whole mess is enraging to me, because it is so, so dumb.
Obviously our ability to meet deadlines and complete research projects will be hampered. Not too big of a deal with a four-day work week, at least until we lose the contractors who are mostly focused on technical work. That will slow us down significantly but we can limp along alright. Everyone understands there will be delays, and the world won't end if a research project or prototype system is delayed 3 months.
I will be OK with a 20% pay cut from April 1 through October 1, assuming that is what happens. I won't be happy, but will be OK. I had plenty saved, and we have no kids, and with this looming my wife and I put together a predicted budget and then found cost savings to keep pretty close to revenue-neutral. I don't plan on putting $10k into our two Roth IRAs, and we'll scale back on the unnecessary stuff. I've been bringing in lunch rather than dropping $7 at the cafeteria. Small stuff, but might as well. I need to repair a section of fence where the Derecho dropped a tree on it. I'll do it myself rather than hire someone, to save a little. Put off some renovation until next year.
But I have it really easy. With no kids, we've never had to really scrutinize our budget that closely. I track everything spent, and keep half an eye on it looking for red flags. That is about it. This year I'll keep a closer eye on it.
Quite a few coworkers will be in deep trouble. Some haven't saved, or would be hit right during the period when they are paying multiple tuitions. I was surprised to hear a 50+ GS15 say that he was taking a loan against his 401k. I would have thought that at that age and salary level there would be considerable savings in place to lean on. Another coworker is getting creamed by his ex-wife and is living hand-to-mouth, and this will be a major problem for him.
None of these people are bums. The front line GS13 gets paid on average about $100k per year. They are all pretty committed, and there is a tremendous amount of specialized experience and institutional knowlege stored here either in brains or in reports, dating back to work performed in the 2nd World War. We come up with new or better systems for one aspect of the Navy. We do the development, or in some unfortunate cases are asked to oversee Beltway Bandit development efforts.
It is a half-academic, half-technical environment with a layer of program management overlaid (for some of us - others just work). We have several dozen technical patents, at least one sensor in space (on one of the later Pioneer missions, I believe?), have branched out of our normal area to assist in IED detection, had guys on-site in Nam involved in deploying surveillance sensors on the Ho Chi Minh trail, done Arctic experiments a few times, some of our guys ride subs during trials, do collaborative research with a few other countries, I have presented at NATO technical symposiums, etc. Great place to work, if we were free from the wicked Navy bureaucracy.
However, no raise for close to 3 years, constantly put down by non-Feds as being useless bums, a never-ending increase in the intrusive bureaucracy and idiotic training and IT regs, and now the looming sequester have made it pretty ugly around here. I will go all NIMBY and declare that my organization does not waste money, provides a service that the citizens want, and should not be hit. We don't even use OM&N funds - we are a working capital group and already have our funding in place for the year. But we will be asked to furlough just for the "sake of fairness" since NAVSEA and the rest will be furloughing. Cut freaking GSA! Cut Homeland Security! Cut the DOE, and all the happy-feely programs that have grown to mammoth proportions over the decades. But not my job!!!
Happy sequester, everyone. I can't go anywhere - I'm overspecialized and too old at 42 to move to some pathetic job with, say, a medical device maker in Fresno for probably less money. You can't fire me, and once the promotion freeze lifts I will be ascending to a ND5 (GS14/15 payband - yeah this whole mess hit at a really bad time for me) and I will have it made. Then the feet go up on the desk... Just kidding, I love working and being the "expert" in my little field and will keep killing it. Your tax dollars are safe with me.
I feel for your story. Seriously- post more often.
Ditto. Just got out of a meeting with our Technical Director. Even though we're not federally funded, we're still expected to take a 20% reduction in pay (1 day of furlough per week for 22 weeks) for those first six months if the sequester happens.
I understand that the the sequestor will have a significant impact on potentially many people in the US. Not cutting spending or reforming entitlements will have a significant impact on everyone. These aren't costs that will be passed onto just future generations or to the rich, they will be passed onto everyone that isn't close to or already retired. I do feel bad for the people effected, if government wasn't run so poorly in the first place they wouldn't be in this position.
The deficits have no ending in sight, how good does that 10 trillion Bush left us sound now? We will double that number by the end of Obama's presidency.
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I hope a deal can be made so that cuts can be eased in over the medium term. I do think cuts need to be made (cuts above and beyond the dollar amount seen in the sequester), but it'd be nice if it could happen less bluntly so people don't immediately have their jobs and businesses affected. I'm not optimistic that politicians have the stomach for it though.
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that she opposes a cut in congressional pay because it would diminish the dignity of lawmakers' jobs.
"I don't think we should do it; I think we should respect the work we do," Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol. "I think it's necessary for us to have the dignity of the job that we have rewarded."
Key to this whole thing is a possible delay of the sequester. If it's delayed, the impact is considerably worse because the reductions have to happen in a smaller time frame.
However, Nancy seems to think that it's ok to swipe my paycheck but the folks up on the Hill need to keep theirs because, well...they deserve more respect, I guess. And a recess. Yes, I do feel they are taking this very seriously...
What I want is every one of them fired right along with us.
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If it makes her feel any better, most of us don't find Congressmen dignified.
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
I see what you did there by only specifying Congressmen and leaving Congresswomen out of your sentence. Is that you Mr Pelosi?
I would, but (ironically) I'm pretty busy while at work. Love it. When I get home I work out and then spend time with the wife and dogs, watch the boob tube, etc, go to sleep. But I do read what is written here while sitting in my recliner.
I disagree - it is the people not the government that is at fault. We the people have made it clear that we want the government to spend at the current level, and we don't want to be bothered with annoying details like paying for it. All the stuff (including my job) costs money.
1. Ask the people how much they are willing to spend.
2. Lay out all the government services, from safety nets, to retirement supplements, to medical subsidization, to defense, to infrastructure.
3. Lay out how much each costs for a variety of levels of service.
4. Tell them to pick what they want until their spending number has been reached.
5. Negotiate levels of service until a best match between wants and funds is reached.
Oh wait - that is the job of Congress, who are supposed to represent the people. Forget I said anything.
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How much dignity is involved in grovelling at the feet of lobbyists?
Few minimum wage workers are union, but unions are the strongest advocates for increasing the minimum wage. I see a similar push program here as well.
So only 3.25 % of workers over age 25 years make the minimum wage or less. If Stewie tried to make that point, he failed to be clear.
When the term "workers" is used in #4 does it include both full time and part time employees?
An attractive candidate, so long as Obamists don't keep yanking his chain for comments like these in the link:
Mayor Cory A. Booker of Newark sharply criticized an advertisement about Mitt Romney’s private equity work.
Mitt Gott, but Pelosi is a dumbass.
Objection! Insulting to dumbasses everywhere...
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