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Afterward do you think Ian looked at her and said "preesh"?
I asked my wife about this the other day. I asked her if she would have a problem if I had promised something "on her" and then went back on it and she said yes. Then I said what if doing that got me $500,000? Then she said "well......." It is funny like you said that swearing "on something" seems to be where the line is, which is just dumb. What someone needs to do next year is just bring a few items into the house that are completely made up "special items" that don't actually have any meaning, and then use them to swear on.
"Barney, I swear on my great aunt's wedding handkerchief that she stuffed in her bra during her wedding 65 years ago that I won't vote you out"
I also do agree about Dan having already won playing a big part in the votes too. I just really wanted to see Dan vs. Danielle for the cash because I think that would have made the vote closer (although I think Dan would have still lost)
I'd have been interested to see how people would have voted if it were Dan vs. Danielle, especially if Dan won final HOH. Ian at least had a case with turning on Boogie/Frank and all his HOH/POV wins late in the game. Dani didn't have much, a couple throwaway HOH's, but at no point was she actually someone's target and got herself out of trouble. But as spiteful as everyone was, I guess she probably still would have won. What a shame...
Time for CBS to include some sort of fan-voting element into the finals of BB and Survivor. Great game players are always the most intriguing to watch, but this spiteful shit is going to make people think twice before making big moves. Bad for the viewers, imo.
It's a delicate balance....On the first season of BB and on The Glass House they let the viewers vote and they always get rid of the people who create drama.
The first season of BB and The Glass House were both boring and awful.
The glass house aired?
And I think he's saying give the public a voice in the finale, not each voteoff
Most TV viewers will still vote for the person they "like" not the one that deserves to win.
Yeah, my father DID NOT want Dan to win. WTF?
Hell no. Do you realize how easy it is for production to edit someone on these shows to fill whatever role they want? If they decide that someone is going to be disliked, they'll show only those pieces of the person, and likewise for production's favorites only getting positive pieces shown to the public.
And the spiteful piece is part of the game anyway. Anyone can stab people in the back (I was rooting for Dan, FWIW), but the key is finding a way to do that and have the ousted player still like you. It's that delicate balance that separates the good from the great in these games.
Good point about the editing. Though BB is already so production-controlled as it is, I don't know that it could get much worse.
As far as the spiteful element being a piece of the game, it definitely is, and you're right that it's something players have to be aware of and work with. However, I think it's a part of the game that detracts from the viewing experience. Situations like Russell's or Dan's don't really leave a lot of wiggle room for being on the evicted person's good side. A lot of it has to do with luck. Russell's first season, he was on a terrible tribe, went into the merge down 6-3, and had no choice but to destroy the competition. This season of BB, Dan took the heat for Ian's betrayal, was dead man walking on Frank's HOH, and basically had to play a role in every jury member's eviction to ensure his two strongest allies (Dani and Ian) got to the end. The point I'm trying to make is that the situation players find themselves in has A LOT to do with luck (no one on week 1 can tell how the game is going to look halfway in). The great players can get themselves out of horrible situations, but never without generating a lot of resentment.
And replying to the post further up, I feel like the viewers generally do a good job picking the best player. Russell was viewers' favorites in both of his seasons. I think Dan would have snagged it this year if not for Frank (who was also awesome).
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