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My view on affirmative action was shaped by the Duke-Maryland series in 2001. After seeing Maryland get jobbed in close games by a few bad calls, I decided that when I took the SAT that summer I wasn't going to let the refs decide the game. So with 10 questions left, I didn't just start chanting OVERRATED. I finished. I knew there was no chance of getting hosed.
Gary Williams accepted a known gringo onto campus and he ended up being the 2nd-leading assist leader in Maryland history and possibly even a top-30 Terp ever.
So I say "yay."
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
Inherent ability isn't the reason the lower classes are disproportionately black.
There was that slavery thing.
When will the government force affirmative action on the Duke basketball team?
emphasizing diversity is bad. encouraging assimilation is good.
IIRC the Top Ten program was introduced after Texas's state university affirmative action program was ruled unconstitutional. This was back when GW Bush was guvner.
If Fisher really wanted to go to UT Austin, she should have finished higher in her HS graduating class.
Absolutely it is ok for them to consider who her father is in making an admissions decision. Universities don't have the responsibility of educating everyone, they have the responsibility of creating the best environment for educating their students. Little plain strawberry hair bowling cellist will basically add very little to the university in the grand scheme of things while susie plank enhances the Plank family love for the university which could translate into the Plank Center for Celloism and Bowling.
The little strawberry blonde girl should learn how to deal with it. Life isn't fair and having a degree from LSU is just another manifestation of that.
Why can't we live in a free market capitalist system where colleges can choose who they want on their team? Why can't they pick more black men or more women or more rich people if they want to? Why do liberals keep whining about this and want to change the way colleges select students? Colleges are a business in a free market and they should be allowed to choose whoever they want based on whatever criteria they want.
Not when they are funded by the state, but other than that...
We're making this a racial thing, but one possible downside of affirmative action is that sometimes the University hires the mentally disabled for jobs they may not be qualified for, like custodial staff or football coach.
So why should it matter if they are funded by the state? Why are the liberals trying to undermine colleges by threatening their funding? A college should be able to choose whoever they want based on whatever criteria without having liberals screaming at them for taking a black kid over a white kid.
It happens all the time, because Kevin Plank does more for the University then does some random student's parents.
This is why the arguments pro and con enter such a vague area.
From my own personal experience, I got the very first approval of an Affirmative Action Plan in all of Exxon in the seventies. I implemented it and changed the racial demographic of a manufacturing facility of 1400 persons. There were compelling reasons for AAP because of a road block caused by a pervasive systemtic racial discrimination which had to be removed. The only way was to populate every level of the business with capable African Americans, lots of them, all able to do these jobs as well as any white person. Over time, there was a transformation of attitudes among the employee group.
When we took the business private, we were able, with some really great parteners and a super CEO, create and foster a greatt employee relationship among the various the races who not only worked together, but played together. This involved management and houly interface as well. The reason all of this worked, and yes we were VERY successful business which enabled our people to thrive, we believed in what we did, and were in turn, believed.
I cannot speak to today's effects of Affirmative Action, but think much of this rancor is over blown by both sides who use race as a wedge issue for political advantage. Both sides of the issue can be disingenuous, so the opposite side sees their real mission, and responds in kind. All I can say is it worked where I was; I did it and was proud I did. It would be very tough to translate my experience in a manufacturing facility to college or law school admissions, so I will not!
This post was edited by tagterp 21 months ago
No they aren't, and no it's not.
Not a jack ass. I am a 4 star poster on RCMB - spartanfan48413
I assume you're just trolling here.
Oh and I'm against.
But if you say need to have it then, this.
"It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."
My friend once wrote a paper at Maryland about Affirmative Action, defining it as, "good action."
But seriously, if a college is funded by the state and therefore by taxpayers, it isn't really right for them to be able to discriminate based on race. Of course then you get into the issue of people in less fortunate situations paying the same relative price for an institution that they have less chance to get into and things like that. It's a more complicated situation then some make it out to be and it's hard to exactly quantify how to fix it. AA is an attempt at a correctional figure for these certain disparities. But while I think that some mechanism is needed, I feel like AA isn't the right answer.
Private colleges can do whatever the hell they want.
I just feel like at this point everything has pretty much evened out
So what's the skinny on this case? I've read that the Court may just say "colleges can accept students as they please" and kinda kick the AA issue itself down the road.
This post was edited by frode 21 months ago
This is what I thought as well. They don't base it on race, they base it on where you finished in your class.
It's probably not right but it keeps everyone happy and thats a good thing.
Everybody except white people and asians. But yeah, everyone else.
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