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This week the Supreme Court will consider a challenge to the Texas higher education system's affirmative action program. The suit was brought by a white girl who was denied from UT Austin and instead had to settle for attending LSU. The Supreme Court in 2005 upheld Michigan law school's affirmative action program in a 5-4 vote, because it considered race as one factor in admissions amongst many with the goal of having a student body with diverse backgrounds and viewpoints. In that decision, Sandra Day O'Connor wrote the opinion upholding the program but mentioned that down the road she thought the need for such programs wouldn't be as compelling.
So what say you, is affirmative action in higher education good? Bad? Necessary evil? Misguided paternalism? And most importantly, should the Supreme Court get rid of it?
This week, the Supreme Court is to hear the case of Abigail Fisher, who said she was rejected by a university because she is white, drawing new attention to affirmative action’s constitutionality.
This post was edited by neal990 21 months ago
This thread should go swimmingly.
Spoiler alert: everybody is a racist.
Race based affirmative is not bad if the university thinks adding one black person is better for the university than adding another high achieving white person. If they feel like the team chemistry is better with the black person, then by all means get him. John Gilchrist was a better player than Eric Hayes, but Gary Williams would rather have an Eric Hayes because the lesser achievers are a better fit for the team than adding another high talent person.
Ha Im taking a diversity class at umd now and that, in fact, is the central thesis of it.
Colts no need to swing for the fences, this is just BP. Try to make contact first.
Bad, don't look at race, look at the area they came from and the school they went to. A student from a crappy school in a low income area putting up the same numbers on the SAT as a kid that went to Churchill is impressive. A black kid putting up the same numbers on the SAT as a white kid, without looking at where they're from and what education they had available, is not.
The only thing worse than affirmative action is whites complaining how they've been wronged by affirmative action.
It would be one thing if she got turned down from UT and wound up at a comparable school, it's another that she got turned down by UT and apparently every other respectable institution of higher learning, community college and DeVry University campus to wind up at LSU.
This post was edited by CuseTerp 21 months ago
Wow, Coltsfan coming out throwing haymakers.
0 chance the list of schools she applied to didn't look something like: UT, A&M, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma
What if people try to juke the system? Like chil's parents raising him in the projects?
If he went to public school in the projects he's still at a disadvantage academically even he's white and rich, unless his parents hired a private tutor for him, which is almost impossible to prove.
The moral of this story? YOU CAN'T TRUST THE SYSTEM!
Elizabeth Warren comes to mind.
Affirmative action should take the form of socio-economic and not race. You can be diverse, racially/ethnically speaking, in this way as well, but it would be coincidental (i.e. race isn't listed in an application, etc.).
lol. and he still wound up at clemson.
but I thought chill just grew up in the projects and then his fam started make like 400k a year and moved out into the suburbs but made him work as a cashier at a grocery store to toughen him up so when he went to pitch for Wake Forest he'd be more mentally tough to throw 95.
Let's say that Kevin Plank has a daughter. This girl grows up in the Plank household and accordingly going to Maryland is her dream. But her whole profile- grades, SAT, extracurriculars, etc.- puts her just a little shy of being offered admission. Would it be ok for the admissions folks to consider who her dad is to give her that extra push over the line? If so, how should the very plain looking strawberry blonde girl who then doesn't get admitted because of little Plank feel about that?
Affirmative action was a car and his upbringing was a mailbox.
The funny thing is a white woman is complaining about affirmative action when its a well known fact that its white women who are biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action. Guess who has achieved the most since affirmative action: White women.
i love this post.
like a filthy whore.
Still jealous as fuck she isnt Kevin Plank's daughter and that she is a ginger and a fraud, hiding behind the smoke screen term "strawberry blonde." SHE GOT WHAT SHE DESERVED
I thought the payoff to the first part of your post would be that they benefit because of there being more brothers on campus
More brothers are in prison than college so I guess that is a benefit for a lot of white women who don't want to deal with more men like me or Tiffles.
Smart people are smart, dumb people are dumb. Doesn't matter where you go. And lets not act like it takes more than a middle school education to do well on the SAT. It's not a hard test.
Besides, we need plumbers, and burger flippers and other tradesmen. Not everyone deserves or even should have the right to go college. Take race out. Look at the applicants on standard metrics based upon how well they did in comparison to their peers. Accept the top x percentage of your applicants.
I don't see the point of socially diverse campuses. Yes, meeting different cultures is good. But you should do that in proportion to how smart that culture is, not some arbitrary percentage that affirmative action says there should be. When you get to the real world, you're going to get fired if you suck no matter what race you are. Why make it different for college?
OH HERRO CHIEF, YOU PICK UP MY COINS NOW
"And I try to har-mo-nize with songs the lonesome sparrow sings...
There are no kings inside the Gates of Eden."
We should just trade in Pell Grant money for trips to Epcot and be done with it.
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