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Breaking Bad - Season 5 (Spoilers: Seasons 1-4)

  • I liked it better when rnt just tried to ruin every premium board thread and wasn't trying to ruin the Suck, too.

    MisterSmiley

  • UMClassof90 said...

    Not message board schtick. I am 100% sure I would hate you in real life.

    If you consider this board 'real life' it still applies. I already hate you on here.

    So you're saying that the female characters on this show are tolerable? Even the staunchest BB supporters point to this as a weakness.

    For the record, I don't dislike the show at all. I think it's one of the better shows I've watched but it's certainly not above criticism and sometimes I think it tries to be too smart for its own good, and the crammed timeline is an example of that. Gilligan has even admitted that since season 3 they sort of write as they go along and it seems to me like they randomly had the idea somewhere in season 4 (when he was at his check up?) that it should have been less than a year for some reason even though when you stop to think about it, it makes little sense in the context of things.

    This post was edited by ravensnterps on 8/7/2012 at 7:55 AM

    ravensnterps

  • ravensnterps said...

    So you're saying that the female characters on this show are tolerable?

    Compared to you, Betty Draper is tolerable.

    MisterSmiley

  • How is Walter still likeable at this point?

    Granted he didn't DO anything really that bad this episode, but I felt like my opinion has really started to shift and he was even more narcissistic and hateable this episode. For example, the whole thing about asking for a birthday party and chocolate cake would do the family good. No Walt, that's just what YOU want.

    At this point we're really seeing the effects of his manipulations on everyone. Even though I abhor Skylar, he's destroying her inside. Beyond that, I felt sooo bad when Jesse gave Walt the watch. And I think Walt felt it too. Even despite that he's totally used Jesse and been awful to him, Jesse still continues to seek his approval and friendship.

    I just embarrassed myself with this post

    HamsterHuey

  • akwhite8 said...

    How is Walter still likeable at this point?

    Granted he didn't DO anything really that bad this episode, but I felt like my opinion has really started to shift and he was even more narcissistic and hateable this episode. For example, the whole thing about asking for a birthday party and chocolate cake would do the family good. No Walt, that's just what YOU want.

    At this point we're really seeing the effects of his manipulations on everyone. Even though I abhor Skylar, he's destroying her inside. Beyond that, I felt sooo bad when Jesse gave Walt the watch. And I think Walt felt it too. Even despite that he's totally used Jesse and been awful to him, Jesse still continues to seek his approval and friendship.

    That's sort of the point of the show and what makes it so compelling. Even though I have some issues with some of the liberties the writers take, this is why the show is so brilliant. He's not SUPPOSED to be likeable but you're drawn to him because 1) he's the protagonist of the show and 2) Cranston has been soooo good in the role that it's hard to not like him.

    ravensnterps

  • Walt's character plays to every man's desire to control the situation and be feared despite his real insecurities which lie beneath.

    classlessthug: I have too much on my plate to worry about the fact that my junk intimidates some needle D undergrad.

    eamhokie94

  • I've watched through season 4, beginning in April and finishing last week. I don't think there's been a better TV show. Ever.

    But is it correct that somebody is implying that this all happened in 1 year? I wonder why they would do that. It makes me think they're setting me up for something.

    Ravens, there's a loose end that never gets explained once in a while, but in my opinion there aren't many considering the complexity and longevity of the story. I find that if you try to fill in too much mundane detail about logistics the story gets bogged down with things that need no explanation instead of advancing the plot. I do agree that the compressed timeline raises a few questions, but since it's such a great show I am comfortable with the suspension of disbelief notion a couple times a season...

    Jersyterrafirma

  • ravensnterps said...

    That's sort of the point of the show and what makes it so compelling. Even though I have some issues with some of the liberties the writers take, this is why the show is so brilliant. He's not SUPPOSED to be likeable but you're drawn to him because 1) he's the protagonist of the show and 2) Cranston has been soooo good in the role that it's hard to not like him.

    Well obviously. I'm more arguing w/ a few people earlier saying they still like him.

    My point is, I think he doesn't really have any redeeming qualities any more

    I just embarrassed myself with this post

    HamsterHuey

  • Jersyterrafirma said...

    But is it correct that somebody is implying that this all happened in 1 year? I wonder why they would do that. It makes me think they're setting me up for something.

    Not sure why you would read this thread before you started watching Season 5, but yes, this episode made it very clear that it was almost exactly a year since he was first diagnosed with cancer.

    MisterSmiley

  • MisterSmiley said...

    Not sure why you would read this thread before you started watching Season 5, but yes, this episode made it very clear that it was almost exactly a year since he was first diagnosed with cancer.

    I tried not to but I'm weak...

    Jersyterrafirma

  • Jersyterrafirma said...

    I've watched through season 4, beginning in April and finishing last week. I don't think there's been a better TV show. Ever.

    But is it correct that somebody is implying that this all happened in 1 year? I wonder why they would do that. It makes me think they're setting me up for something.

    Ravens, there's a loose end that never gets explained once in a while, but in my opinion there aren't many considering the complexity and longevity of the story. I find that if you try to fill in too much mundane detail about logistics the story gets bogged down with things that need no explanation instead of advancing the plot. I do agree that the compressed timeline raises a few questions, but since it's such a great show I am comfortable with the suspension of disbelief notion a couple times a season...

    I was on board with most of it until this timeline thing.

    It just drives me nuts. First of all, we know that he worked for Gus for at least 3 months (remember, he got paid MORE in the months after 3 and when they were laundering money back into the dry cleaner it was the monthly payments he received at the higher salary). That is 1/4 of the entire timeline of the series right there. It also doesn't incorporate the time it takes Jesse to form a relationship with Jane in Season 2 (had to be at least a couple months since his constant argument was about how he always pays his rent on time), how long Jesse was in rehab (and group meetings), how long he had to form yet another relationship with Andrea (and Brock), how long (season 2) their own organization was running things in the streets, etc.

    Further, there had to be at least enough time for Walter to get diagnosed, go into treatment for long enough for the cancer to go into remission, have major major surgery, recover, and then take the job with Gus.

    I just don't know the motivation to throw this random curveball at the audience 3/4 of the way through the series when it really makes no sense in the context of everything else. Especially for as carefully as apparently they wrote out the airplane story in Season 2.

    If that makes me miserable, I'm sorry.

    ravensnterps

  • akwhite8 said...

    Well obviously. I'm more arguing w/ a few people earlier saying they still like him.

    My point is, I think he doesn't really have any redeeming qualities any more

    Right. That's the part of the show that is so brilliant. He really hasn't had any redeeming qualities since really the beginning of Season 2 and definitely not since mid-Season 3 when Gus manipulated him into getting back into the game. Yet you are inherently drawn to him because normal convention tells you to be; the EXACT emotion Gilligan is trying to exploit out of the audience. That whole concept is what makes the show great.

    ravensnterps

  • The timeline in the Nolan batman series is much more mystifying. He becomes Batman over the course of what, a few weeks or a month in Batman Begins? The Dark Knight picks up a few months later and also covers maybe a month. Then The Dark Knight Rises picks up EIGHT YEARS later. So in this universe, the people of Gotham had Batman for like 5 months, and really it was probably the worst 5 months the city could have had. Eight years later I'm surprised anyone even remembers Batman, let alone is yearning for him to come back.

    neal990

  • neal990 said...

    The timeline in the Nolan batman series is much more mystifying. He becomes Batman over the course of what, a few weeks or a month in Batman Begins? The Dark Knight picks up a few months later and also covers maybe a month. Then The Dark Knight Rises picks up EIGHT YEARS later. So in this universe, the people of Gotham had Batman for like 5 months, and really it was probably the worst 5 months the city could have had. Eight years later I'm surprised anyone even remembers Batman, let alone is yearning for him to come back.

    Yeah, but for some reason I find it easier to suspend disbelief for a comic book.

    ravensnterps

  • neal990 said...

    The timeline in the Nolan batman series is much more mystifying. He becomes Batman over the course of what, a few weeks or a month in Batman Begins? The Dark Knight picks up a few months later and also covers maybe a month. Then The Dark Knight Rises picks up EIGHT YEARS later. So in this universe, the people of Gotham had Batman for like 5 months, and really it was probably the worst 5 months the city could have had. Eight years later I'm surprised anyone even remembers Batman, let alone is yearning for him to come back.

    FWIW (and not that it makes a huge difference), TDK was set roughly 9-12 months after the end of BB.

    This post was edited by fearthenoodle on 8/7/2012 at 9:03 AM

    fearthenoodle

  • i was just talking to some friends about the timeline stuff the other day....i agree its pretty ridiculous....but i also dont think breaking bad is to be taken seriously and its not a show that should ever be over analyzed...because you are going to find a lot of silly shit....imo its a show like the shield in that its just crazy stupid fun....pure entertainment

    this isnt the wire or mad men

    5th and lehigh

  • I think the show mentioning the timeline the other night was them acknowledging that they've probably stretched reality a bit by cramming so much into one year. But I don't think they've stretched it TOO much. Like 5th says though, I don't think Breaking Bad has ever been about super neat and tidy writing, it's alot more about the experience and the emotions of the characters.

    neal990

  • neal990 said...

    I think the show mentioning the timeline the other night was them acknowledging that they've probably stretched reality a bit by cramming so much into one year. But I don't think they've stretched it TOO much. Like 5th says though, I don't think Breaking Bad has ever been about super neat and tidy writing, it's alot more about the experience and the emotions of the characters.

    Yeah- the show very clearly recognizes the compressed timeline. Marie even says something like "it's only been a year? It feels like a lot longer" or something to that effect.

    fearthenoodle

  • 5th and lehigh said...

    i was just talking to some friends about the timeline stuff the other day....i agree its pretty ridiculous....but i also dont think breaking bad is to be taken seriously and its not a show that should ever be over analyzed...because you are going to find a lot of silly shit....imo its a show like the shield in that its just crazy stupid fun....pure entertainment

    this isnt the wire or mad men

    I think that may be part of my problem. I really just recently started watching. Basically watched all 4 seasons in May/June/July. The reason i started watching was because I'd read a lot of places how it was as good as if not better than The Wire which I'd finihsed last year and is absolutely incredible obviously.

    ravensnterps

  • akwhite8 said...

    How is Walter still likeable at this point?

    He isn't. The only people that still "like" him are the ones that confuse his horribleness for bad-assery.

    bkmalik

  • neal990 said...

    I think the show mentioning the timeline the other night was them acknowledging that they've probably stretched reality a bit by cramming so much into one year. But I don't think they've stretched it TOO much. Like 5th says though, I don't think Breaking Bad has ever been about super neat and tidy writing, it's alot more about the experience and the emotions of the characters.

    I wonder why they needed to acknowledge it at all. I had no idea that they felt a need to make it all happen within a year. I don't remember anything in the storyline that requires it.

    But it's not important to me, I still think it's fantastic.

    Jersyterrafirma

  • ravensnterps said...

    I think that may be part of my problem. I really just recently started watching. Basically watched all 4 seasons in May/June/July. The reason i started watching was because I'd read a lot of places how it was as good as if not better than The Wire which I'd finihsed last year and is absolutely incredible obviously.

    That's part of why I hate these TV show comparison/ranking threads. They're both awesome shows and very different.

    MisterSmiley

  • ravensnterps said...

    I think that may be part of my problem. I really just recently started watching. Basically watched all 4 seasons in May/June/July. The reason i started watching was because I'd read a lot of places how it was as good as if not better than The Wire which I'd finihsed last year and is absolutely incredible obviously.

    i enjoy it but bb is unbelievably overrated

    bb is fun.....the wire is life

    5th and lehigh

  • Just making my way through season 1 now, I have to say the acid/bathtub falling through the ceiling with the dissolved body in it is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV.

    sugarmag

  • sugarmag said...

    Just making my way through season 1 now, I have to say the acid/bathtub falling through the ceiling with the dissolved body in it is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV.

    Prepared to make that "is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV" statement at least a dozen more times by the time you catch up to season 5.

    MisterSmiley