Online Now 933

Terps Sports

Visitor discussion of University of Maryland and college sports

On this Board 138
Record: 4726 (10/4/2012)

Online now 910
Record: 11761 (2/27/2012)

Boards ▾

Inside Scoop

The Web's No. 1 forum for coverage and discussion of Terps sports

Terps Sports

Visitor discussion of University of Maryland and college sports

General Sports Water Cooler

A place for lively discussion for all other sports unrelated to Maryland athletics

Off-Topic

Test/Feedback Forum

Feedback for IMS and 247Sports

The Ticket Exchange

Reply

MD Baseball Off-season (Lead-Off Kurkjian 2/8 @#4 LSU 2/15)

  • .

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by 2terp4life on 7/3/2012 at 6:06 AM

    2terp4life

  • 2terp4life said...

    not going to get another Bakich????? has this man brainwashed everyone. Granted the culture has changed and the facilities are better but what about winning? I was a member of last years team and we got outcoached in numerous games (especially UVA series). he has not proven anything as a head coach so I am having trouble understanding how is he so irreplaceable? yeah he recruited well but top recruiters can be found. No one sees what goes on behind the scenes in terms or practices/coaching/weight lifting. Trust me there should be a lot more optimism in what we can do in terms of a COACH.

    http://www.umterps.com/sports/m-basebl/recordbook/coaching_history.html

    Even Rupp had a better winning % as a coach.

    So of Milton and Bakich's two assistants, who do you think is the strongest candidate to become head coach? Assuming Anderson just hires from within.

    VAHooper3

  • .
    .

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by 2terp4life on 6/29/2012 at 5:10 PM

    2terp4life

  • 2terp4life said...

    not going to get another Bakich????? has this man brainwashed everyone. Granted the culture has changed and the facilities are better but what about winning? I was a member of last years team and we got outcoached in numerous games (especially UVA series). he has not proven anything as a head coach so I am having trouble understanding how is he so irreplaceable? yeah he recruited well but top recruiters can be found. No one sees what goes on behind the scenes in terms or practices/coaching/weight lifting. Trust me there should be a lot more optimism in what we can do in terms of a COACH.

    http://www.umterps.com/sports/m-basebl/recordbook/coaching_history.html

    Even Rupp had a better winning % as a coach.

    I hope you're right. I think comparing Rupp and Bakich by win % is like comparing Turgeon to Gottfried by win %. Bakich cleaned house when he took over and his first season was brutal. Given the record this year and the talent he was bringing in I don't think it's a big leap to say Bakich had this team on a course to go far beyond what any MD baseball team has done since the 70's.

    Bakich did a great job promoting the program, which was something sorely needed. The only way for MD to compete in the ACC is for the program to get the attention ($$$) from the school, alumni, locals, etc. I'm not convinced Bakich is easily replaceable though I also don't think it's a dead man walking and should be folded. The next hire is very important obviously in continuing the momentum that Bakich has created.

    jsh

  • This season was better than anything Rupp ever had. We never even dreamed of the tournament with Rupp. What an absurd comparison.

    theaman

  • jsh said...

    I hope you're right. I think comparing Rupp and Bakich by win % is like comparing Turgeon to Gottfried by win %. Bakich cleaned house when he took over and his first season was brutal. Given the record this year and the talent he was bringing in I don't think it's a big leap to say Bakich had this team on a course to go far beyond what any MD baseball team has done since the 70's.

    Bakich did a great job promoting the program, which was something sorely needed. The only way for MD to compete in the ACC is for the program to get the attention ($$$) from the school, alumni, locals, etc. I'm not convinced Bakich is easily replaceable though I also don't think it's a dead man walking and should be folded. The next hire is very important obviously in continuing the momentum that Bakich has created.

    .
    .

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by 2terp4life on 7/3/2012 at 6:07 AM

    2terp4life

  • theaman said...

    This season was better than anything Rupp ever had. We never even dreamed of the tournament with Rupp. What an absurd comparison.

    Rupp's 2002 team had more wins than this years team and missed the NCAA by a small margin( number of league wins was the down fall of that team). No matter what your feelings are regarding both men, they were both hamstrung by an Athletic department that made promises and never followed through so they could appropriately move the program forward.

    Tod dale

  • 2terp4life said...

    I did not intend to compare Rupp to Bakich. I only put that up to demonstrate Bakich has not done anything extraordinary in his time here.

    I was part of the Rupp era, "rebuilding team", and other Bakich teams. That "rebuilding team" won just as many ACC games as "his" team did the following year. Furthermore, "Rupp's recruits" were significant contributors that past few seasons... people tend to forget that! Gentz, Kolarek, Potter, Arod, Haslup, Reed, Schwally, Disch, Beck, etc were all from Rupp and were huge pieces of those teams.

    I agree with you that Bakich did a great job promoting the program and bringing in talent. He was easily the best "seller" ive ever met but from a COACHING perspective, we can do much better. That is all I am saying. I dont understand what he has accomplished in terms of winning that makes everyone feel like losing him is a big blow. From a MANAGER perspective, he is very expendable. I think we overvalue what he has done and underestimate potential candidates like Milton.

    I tend to agree with you for the most part in that Bakich is not indispensible to future success of the program. However, I do think it's important to point out that all of those players you listed that were recruited under Rupp's era were pitchers and came to Maryland primarily because of Farr, not Rupp. Even with the success and momentum that the program sustained under Bakich, it can be argued that Farr had as much to do with that as anyone and should have been Rupp's replacement in the first place.

    TerpsBaseball26

  • 2terp4life said...

    I dont understand what he has accomplished in terms of winning that makes everyone feel like losing him is a big blow.

    It's not about what he accomplished as it is what everyone felt that he was "about" to accomplish. Everyone was excited for years 4 and 5 under Bakich cause those were the years we all believed he'd accomplish something special. He gave us no reason to doubt that the first 3 years, as everything progressed more or less exactly as everyone expected it would.

    spideyguy0

  • Rodriguez - Helena Brewers - Rookie ball
    Beck - Aberdeen Ironbirds - Short Season A
    Boyden - GCL- Rookie ball

    rdez79

  • Kenny to mich along with ECU hitting coach Schnabel. Per Kendal Rodgers twitter

    rdez79

  • Kendall Rogers ‏@KendallRogersPG

    Interesting note: #Maryland AD Kevin Anderson previously was at #Army. Could be a nice landing spot for Joe Sottolano

    jsh

  • jsh said...

    I wish him the best of luck at Michigan. I will start to look at him differently though if he bails on Michigan after 2-3 years to take over an SEC/ACC school.

    Why? Ann Arbor's nice but if one of the top tier southern SEC or ACC schools tosses $500K plus at him after sustaining a few good years at UM, he's gone, as anyone would be. Ray Tanner makes 650K. LSU's coach makes 625K.

    Not too long ago, college coaches made $100K. Now that is the type of raise they get.

    FWIW, ACC coaches at the big schools make $200-400K.

    PKP_313

  • I heard that KJ will be transferring...

    mfnterp

  • I know how Maryland baseball can serve and even be great.

    Play speed ball. Recruit atom of speed guys. Teach them to be base stealing freaks. Recruit kids from Latin countries or other international kids like Soccer team. And get your pitchers and 2 power guy. Play money ball, small ball great defense wins championships.

    TerpsSoccer

  • TerpsSoccer said...

    And get your pitchers

    therein lies the problem for small schools and rebuilding programs in major conferences. You need 4 legitimate starters, and needless to say they don't grow on trees. Most smaller teams have a guy who can keep them in games vs the big boys. but that's one game out of 4-5 in a week.

    Teams with 3 ballers on the mound are the ones who are in Supers and the CWS. Offense is secondary these days.

    PKP_313

  • Well sounds like great pitchers in baseball. Are like shutdown corners and pass rushers run stuffers in football.

    TerpsSoccer

  • TerpsSoccer said...

    I know how Maryland baseball can serve and even be great.

    Play speed ball. Recruit atom of speed guys. Teach them to be base stealing freaks. Recruit kids from Latin countries or other international kids like Soccer team. And get your pitchers and 2 power guy. Play money ball, small ball great defense wins championships.

    it seems so easy, just recruit faster, stronger, better players.

    why haven't they thought of this before?

    terpinexile

  • 2terp4life said...

    I was part of the Rupp era, "rebuilding team", and other Bakich teams. That "rebuilding team" won just as many ACC games as "his" team did the following year. Furthermore, "Rupp's recruits" were significant contributors that past few seasons... people tend to forget that! Gentz, Kolarek, Potter, Arod, Haslup, Reed, Schwally, Disch, Beck, etc were all from Rupp and were huge pieces of those teams...

    Quinny?

    turtle_juice

  • mfnterp said...

    I heard that KJ will be transferring...

    I heard he had an atrocious gpa (something like a 0.50), and might have to drop out. But this was hearsay, so who knows.

    turtle_juice

  • turtle_juice said...

    I heard he had an atrocious gpa (something like a 0.50), and might have to drop out. But this was hearsay, so who knows.

    Damn. I didn't know his GPA was that low. I am hearing JC (probably in FL), next season, then the MLB draft...

    mfnterp

  • Terrapin trail has an update on college summer leagues

    http://terrapintrail.com/

    rdez79

  • Jimmy Reed will be returning, Charlie Haslup signs with the Yankees.

    jsh

  • thought it would be the other way around or both staying

    rdez79

  • Gallen posted another summer league update today. A couple of the Cape guys moved to different leagues which can't be a great sign, but more playing time is more playing time.

    http://terrapintrail.com/sports/2012/07/16/baseball-another-terps-summer-league-update-2/

    Also has anyone heard anything about a new HC? Is Milton the guy? Is it on hold until Anderson figures out where he's going?

    This post was edited by shanoterp on 7/17/2012 at 8:38 PM

    shanoterp