Losing to seton hall by 18. THAT'S WHAT GEORGETOWN DOES.

Some boards are more sensitive and ban anyone who disagrees with the party line.

But does anyone think Georgetown randomly agreed to split the gate with Maryland for their home game with out the expectation that the same thing would happen on the return game. I don't know for sure if it was in writing but you'd have to think common courtesy would dictate that we would gate the same deal. Gary held the same opinion some of you do that they should not split the gate at their on campus arena. Again debatable. But no side is blameless in this debate. Frankly I don't think Gary or Pops really wanted to play the game.

What we need to do is just forget about the past and move on if we want the game to happen.

I think the move by the Kevin Anderson severely hurt the chances of the game happening anytime soon.

Hopefully JT3 and Turgeon can put aside the past and the current issues and make it this happen. I think on the whole it would be a good thing. I'd love it everytime we beat you and be furious everytime we lost. It has the makings of a great rivalry.

alexhoya making some bad points.

Can someone provide a cite for us splitting the proceeds. I'm sure it doesn't exist and it probably is true, but still. Bueller?

Honestly, I don't remember the last time that I was THIS disappointed in the outright stupidity in so many people here.

This is like Negotiating 101.

Anderson tried to leverage something (non-revenue games) that literally has almost zero leverage. That's a mistake.

He then took an issue to the media that is only going to serve to insult our negotiating partner and embarrass them publicly. That's a mistake.

The only good that can come of this is....What, exactly??? Putting Georgetown's feet to the fire? Embarassing them in the media???? You guys are reading the way the media is spinning this whole thing right??? Where are the people out there who are applauding Anderson for this? Because I don't bloody see them! They are all agreeing with me!!

And they're agreeing because, like me and our hoya friend here, they would really like to see this game get played. And, frankly, there's nothing positive coming out of this situation that will make that more likely.

The ONLY positive, might be some visceral satisfaction about embarrassing Georgetown in public when the game wasn't going to happen no matter what. Well, there are signs that this game was becoming more of a possibility. And there really isn't any evidence that it was an impossibility at this point. So that's just really completely childish ridiculousness. This is the adult world. Not some playground for middle school kids.

"In 1993, just as Gary Williams’s Maryland program was emerging from the probation-scarred aftermath of Len Bias’s death, the teams agreed to play at USAir Arena. It was arranged by future Virginia state senator Russ Potts, then an enterprising promoter who had already put on the Ralph Sampson vs. Patrick Ewing Game of the Century in 1982.
Maryland agreed to play on Georgetown’s home court only if there were no markings anywhere advertising Georgetown, and the Terps got to wear their home jerseys. An even split on tickets was arranged, which many Maryland fans bought up."

"A game at Cole Field House was tentatively scheduled for the next year, but Georgetown was denied a split of the tickets. When the school couldn’t be guaranteed an allotment of even 3,000, Thompson — feeling the Hoyas had treated the 1993 game as a contest on a neutral court — essentially told Maryland to beat it.

Gary’s take for years: Georgetown still owes us a game at our place."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/maryland-athletics-needs-an-image-makeover/2012/02/23/gIQAXtReVR_story.html

There it is a factual report of what happened. I'm perfectly fine with Georgetown balking at not even being able to get 3,000 tickets for the return game when they gave up half their arena and Maryland made demands about Georgetown Logos and wearing their home uniforms. Seems like the return game was only tentatively scheduled. Not sure if that means it was agreed to when they played the first game or if they started negotiating it after the first game took place. That part is unclear.

We really need to move past it though. I don't see what's wrong with a home and home starting in College Park. After all these years that should be enough to satisfy everyone.

This is one of those cases where 99% of the people agree on 99% of what is being talked about (I'd say the consensus is "forget the past, this series should happen") but everybody's at each other's throats anyway.

I do think it's worth pointing out that it appears that KA didn't go to anybody with anything. as I understand it he was asked a question and he answered. It might not have been a perfect answer, but it isn't like he's taken the initiative and launched a campaign to embarrass Georgetown...

I wasn't yet following Maryland basketball in 1993, and I don't have any real feelings on that issue. But I definitely don't care whether or not we ever play Georgetown again in basketball or any other sport, and I can't imagine I'm the only one who feels that way.

We rarely agree, but I think you're right on about this one. You don't "owe" someone anything after 20 freaking years. That's absolutely the dumbest thing ever.

we need to play home and home, regular way, starting soon as we can.

Play at Comcast first - with them as a visiting team and no special deal on who gets the gate. They get what any visitor gets. Then we go to Verizon and get regular visitor $.

No special deals on tickets, no special deals on $, just home and home. best case would be to agree to something like doing it for 4 or 6 years.

Alas, newest md posturing likely reduced the chances of this. It would be great. Good games. Lots on the line. And the truth is that Maryland fans would be heavy presence at Verizon.

I did some research and the VT website shows they played a game the next day at USAIR against WVA. Lots of pre-game articles note a doubleheader being put together by promoter Russ Potts.

Hell no, I'm from Maryland and live in downtown DC, 4 blocks from where they play their home games. I just don't think they're very relevant to the DC sports landscape. Most of the people I know that pull for them the hardest didn't even go there and live in the suburbs. I rarely hear people talking about Georgetown basketball in DC.

I may very well be in the minority, but I find it hard to believe that 90% of Maryland basketball fans desperately want to play Georgetown at all costs. I'm certainly not against it, but I wouldn't ever want to give up concessions of any form to do it (and I don't even consider starting the series at Verizon a concession, who cares where you start as long as it's even).

Hey, let's put it to a poll... Oh, right.

agreed.

I do not agree that JT jr would stop this game from happening. Plenty of people out there hate him and chose to blame him for lots of things. Some of that is racial, some of that is jealousy, a lot of that is that Pops' personality can rub people the wrong way. But...

JT jr does not run the athletic department.

JT jr does not hold any ill will against Maryland or Gary Williams.

JT jr does not have some final say on the matter.

if JT3 and Turgeon decide they want to play each other it will happen.
JT3 is his own man and makes the schedule without any influence from his Dad. Their philosophies are completely opposite on scheduling. JT3 has consistently played one of the toughest schedules in the country. His dad was notorious for weak schedules.

Let the hate for JT Jr go.

This. KA just called out JT II.