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I guess I get 4 DV per day, 'cause that is all I was able to use in this thread.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and mine is that of Padge while solid is not as good as most believe he looked much better because everyone else on the team (in regards to BIGS) was terrible. I'm saying and will stand by the fact that I think Cleare and Mitchell will beat him out for playing time. This isn't Gary Williams on the sideline who was notorious for starting players based on seniority Gary had that luxury with his resume and Turge has to put the BEST players on the court and I believe that through practice and pre-season that Cleare and Mitchell will prove that they deserve to be in the line up more than Padge.

Faust is our best returning player, but your point is still valid.

NavyDoc, I hope you are right. If Cleare AND Mitchell walk onto campus better than Sr. Padgett then we are in for a good year.

Not reading this whole thread, but Faust, Allen, Len, and Padgett are all locks to start.

Allen?

Not saying he won't, but a "lock"?

And I'm still not sure if people are likely overrating the newcomers or underrating Padgett. The only real thing we can compare of the two is what they've done in high school. People have been pretty high on Shaq and Mitchell because of how well they performed at the Capital Classic. That said, when Padgett was in high school he absolutely dominated the Charm City Classic (which is basically what the Cap Classic has become) scoring 22 points on 11-13 shooting.

Would any of you suggest that Padgett hasn't improved? We all saw him play his first 2 seasons here. He was wild, out of control, and unskilled. Last season he was an immensely improved player, and someone we could rely on inside.

This leads me to believe that the real thing some people are underrating is the massive jump in the level of competition between high school basketball and ACC basketball. We've seen these incoming recruits play, and we've liked a lot of the things we've seen, but it's been against other high schoolers. James Padgett was very good against high school players as well, but the transition to the ACC was very difficult. Sure, I'm expecting it to be a bit smoother for the newcomers, maybe something between Padgett's and Jordan's transition, but it's still going to be tough, and they're not going to be able to do all the things they're doing against high schoolers.

Padgett is not an All-American or anywhere near it, but he's a solid starter who should be able to keep the seat warm while these freshmen learn what ACC basketball is all about. I'm pretty confident that Shaq and Mitchell will be better in time than what Padgett is now, but it's likely not going to happen over night.

I wouldn't count on Pe'shon for anything. Last season his first injury robbed him of all of his explosiveness, and his second injury (and missed practice time) will probably prevent improvement. He also shot the ball horribly. I think Seth Allen will be much better than Pe' immediately, but if he isn't we'll be in for a very rough season.

jordan williams put up ROY numbers in his freshman year. we'd all be ecstatic if he's that good. Padge put up 9 pt and 6 rb last year. the following bigs did not produce that much in their freshman season:

lonny baxter
nik caner-medley
james gist
terrence morris
chris wilcox

as far as i can tell, in the gary era only williams and booth did it. if shaq is keith booth, awesome. but you all are underestimating how rare that is. especially for a kid who lacks the conditioning to play college basketball at the moment.

padge is going to go out there, put up 12 and 7, and be an above average PF. if shaq is "much better" than that as you say, we have the national rookie of the year on the roster and we will all be happy.

I'm not expecting double/doubles from the Fresh, but 8-5 from a Fresh is better than 9-6 from a Jr.

No, it's not, but do you think one will play all the minutes and the other won't play at all? Do you think they'll still practice?

This thread is getting stupider.

You know that Padgett's stats are only slightly better than Len's (8-5) and Len missed the creampuff part of the schedule. James will play as a Senior, but he is going to have to beat out a freshman (Shaq) if he wants to continue being a starter. This is not hate.

U/V.

Multiple posters think less pts and less rbs are better if a player is younger.

This is the wrongest thing I've ever read on this board.

Not to bring math into the discussion, but isn't 9 points more than 8 ?
Didn't run the numbers on the rebounds. If someone has the time, check it out. I'm guessing the results will be similar.