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Edsall and DeMatha

  • StreetsDisciple said...

    They've alienated a lot of people locally with just the way they go about things.

    As a rule, they prohibited any of their kids from taking part in our camp because they keep everything in house and didn't want incoming players participating in the GYFL.

    Players were transferring out of there left and right because of how coaches were handling things and while they're still getting the majority of studs out of KLM and South Bowie, a lot of local coaches are making inroads because DeMatha not only cut back on their recruiting budget but schools are pointing at the dysfunction at the varsity level and using it as a tool to recruit against them.

    Good Counsel is going to dominate local football for the foreseeable future but I was surprised at some of the boys going to Palotti. One of my guys was all set to go to DeMatha until Palotti offered money. DeMatha didn't and that's that.

    Mike Anderson from GYFL is my guy.A former MD Terp player who is pro MD. Dematha Gilman Mt St Joe etc dont lt the kids going to their schoos participate in such leagues. But, they still want to rec ruit the others who have not chosen a school yet.

    The reason Dematha has had so many kids leave as they have, is because once McGregorleft his money pot left also.The school had to get the monies back in order.Some kids who wre only paying say $200 a month now would have to pay what the school says they should without third party help.The new evaluatons have kids running.

    This period has other schools getting some quality players coming their way that in other yrs would not even get a 1st glance.

    SWAGGERTERP

  • The staff should establish a good relationship with DeMatha and all the local schools that have decent programs. Even if there aren't players the Terps want this year, there may well be some in a year or two.

    That said, I hope the staff has a great relationship with GC.

    Nocalterp

  • Why did Levenberry leave DM?

    terpsw

  • Nocalterp said...

    The staff should establish a good relationship with DeMatha and all the local schools that have decent programs. Even if there aren't players the Terps want this year, there may well be some in a year or two.

    That said, I hope the staff has a great relationship with GC.

    I think Ideally this is the best scenario but if you have a prick coach who wants a college to bow down to him a HS coach, then your going to have issues.

    Pic Sigs are for losers.

    jgdomino

  • screw Dematha...recruit Gwynn Park rockon

    Good. Things. Do. Not. Happen. For. D.C./MD. Sports.

    JoeBlack84

  • StreetsDisciple said...

    There are a few kids that come out of there every few years that are sure-fire can't-miss prospects, but there are more than a few schools locally and nationally that aren't enamored with the second, third, etc .. tier players at DeMatha. I had two coaches - one from a BCS school the other from a MEAC school - tell me at a camp last month that they don't want any more kids from DeMatha because they're amazed at how little they know about even the most basic schemes and they're soft.

    As an alum, it hurts to hear that but it goes along with what I've been hearing the last few years from local high school coaches and what I saw with my own eyes. McGregor had to go and Elijah is a good dude and all, but the perception is out there that if you want tough, well-coached kids who aren't babied, then DeMatha isn't where you're going to spend a lot of time.

    Edsall isn't a lazy recruiter by any stretch of the imagination. He just likes a certain type of player and if you want to know what kind of player that is, look at Nick Madaras. Cyrus Koundaijo is a better long-term prospect because of his athletic ability but Madaras is a better player right now and won't need someone to tell him to get mean once they put the pads on.

    If Edsall wants to win over locals in PG, he should reach out to the coaches at KLM. If he makes inroads there, with the way local football is progressing, he'll do better getting some of the big-name kids than he would dealing with alot of the high school coaches.

    Good advice, and easy to do since that area is 10-15 minutes from his
    office and only 30 minutes from his new digs. They need a better local
    recruiting approach overall.

    MARYLAND. The area they’re now calling the DMV—D.C./Maryland/Northern Virginia—might be the country’s richest talent mine.

    alexander2

  • DM might have talent but every time I've seen them play they play soft.

    QuakerTerp

  • StreetsDisciple said...

    Way too many local coaches/handlers view MD as a safety school. It's through no fault of anyone at the school, but that's how it viewed. A kid may dream of playing at LSU, Florida, USC, FSU, etc .. but know that even if that doesn't happen, I can always go to Maryland. It's not just MD football, Gary dealt with the same thing as does JTIII at Georgetown. Local kids, for the most part, don't grow up dying to place at the local schools.

    However, MD, whether people want to believe it or not, is better than that and the perception of the school in places like NJ, PA, NY, etc .. among local coaches is much better than it is here. Edsall and his staff have good relationships with big-time schools outside the area and they're looking for kids who want to be here and build something special instead of dealing with kids who see Maryland as where they might have to go if they don't get their "dream" offer.

    Judge the man by his results.

    This is not unique to Maryland. I lived in a state where the big state school was in the Big 12 and has been successful. I heard the same things about that school. "Why can't the school keep the local kids, why would they want to go anywhere else?", "The school is a safety school for the local kids.", etc., etc.

    I'm not disagreeing with your premise. I just think outside of a small handful of schools, this happens all the time around the country.

    artielange

  • JoeBlack84 said...

    screw Dematha...recruit Gwynn Park rockon

    Not surprised at all that you rep that school

    RedandWhite

  • RedandWhite said...

    Not surprised at all that you rep that school

    GP football > Dematha

    Kyle Arrington, Rock Carmichael, Adrian Moten and Phil Taylor...4 players in the NFL from a small school

    Seth Mitchell is a HW boxing contender

    I'm not sure Wes Jefferson really loved football though...makes ya wonder

    Good. Things. Do. Not. Happen. For. D.C./MD. Sports.

    JoeBlack84

  • JoeBlack84 said...

    GP football > Dematha

    Kyle Arrington, Rock Carmichael, Adrian Moten and Phil Taylor...4 players in the NFL from a small school

    Seth Mitchell is a HW boxing contender

    I'm not sure Wes Jefferson really loved football though...makes ya wonder

    Brian Westbrook, Josh Wilson, Cameron Wake, Edwin Williams, Quinn Ojinnaka, and Byron Westbrook all agree that you are a moron.

    This post was edited by WMTerp12 on 7/30/2011 at 3:28 PM

    WMTerp12

  • JoeBlack84 said...

    GP football > Dematha

    Kyle Arrington, Rock Carmichael, Adrian Moten and Phil Taylor...4 players in the NFL from a small school

    Seth Mitchell is a HW boxing contender

    I'm not sure Wes Jefferson really loved football though...makes ya wonder

    Whether GP football is >DeMatha or not, is not the point. We're not recruiting the entire team. We're recruiting individual kids, some of whom at DM are > some of them at GP. Not to mention, we're also recruiting DM kids for basketball. We can't have good relations for one program but not another at the same school.

    Maybe more important, what the hell can it hurt? There may be football kids from DM interested in Maryland in a year or two or three, and whom we're interested in...but if they think our coaching staff are jerks, they're going to be less likely to give Maryland the time of day. Did your parents tell you to be nice to people who can help you today, but it's OK to blow off those who can't help you, or at least can't help you today?

    Nocalterp

  • QuakerTerp said...

    DM might have talent but every time I've seen them play they play soft.

    Didn't our last few DM kids have academic issues to boot? Maybe they don't want the headaches anymore.

    MoCoTerp

  • WMTerp12 said...

    Brian Westbrook, Josh Wilson, Cameron Wake, Edwin Williams, Quinn Ojinnaka, and Byron Westbrook all agree that you are a moron.

    has been, bum, bum, bum, bum and bum

    This post was edited by JoeBlack84 on 7/30/2011 at 5:02 PM

    Good. Things. Do. Not. Happen. For. D.C./MD. Sports.

    JoeBlack84

  • Nocalterp said...

    Whether GP football is >DeMatha or not, is not the point. We're not recruiting the entire team. We're recruiting individual kids, some of whom at DM are > some of them at GP. Not to mention, we're also recruiting DM kids for basketball. We can't have good relations for one program but not another at the same school.

    Maybe more important, what the hell can it hurt? There may be football kids from DM interested in Maryland in a year or two or three, and whom we're interested in...but if they think our coaching staff are jerks, they're going to be less likely to give Maryland the time of day. Did your parents tell you to be nice to people who can help you today, but it's OK to blow off those who can't help you, or at least can't help you today?

    I personally don't care, just took the opportunity to stump for my hs program

    dematha basketball players aren't that tough either so fugg em

    Good. Things. Do. Not. Happen. For. D.C./MD. Sports.

    JoeBlack84

  • JoeBlack84 said...

    has been, bum, bum, bum, bum and bum

    You never had any credibility to begin with, but you certainly aren't helping yourself when you say Cameron Wake is a bum.

    WMTerp12

  • Interesting how everyone assumes the WP article is the gospel truth.

    OdessaTerp

  • WVU received a commit from this high school yesterday. Casteel has had a very good eye for linebackers, and to make an offer this early I would have to think the Lebbie kid has talent. WVU also has accepted offers from 3 Baltimore area kids, as well as one from Frostburg.

    It appears the new staff at WVU really likes Maryland high school talent.

    Of course I do not know if Edsall was even interested in the kids WVU recruited. DH and Edsall do not run similar offenses.

    Many of Pitt's 58 "rushing attempts" were the result qb Tino Sunseri fleeing the pocket like a man whose clothes were on fire.

    Nolaeer

  • Nolaeer said...

    WVU received a commit from this high school yesterday. Casteel has had a very good eye for linebackers, and to make an offer this early I would have to think the Lebbie kid has talent. WVU also has accepted offers from 3 Baltimore area kids, as well as one from Frostburg.

    It appears the new staff at WVU really likes Maryland high school talent.

    Of course I do not know if Edsall was even interested in the kids WVU recruited. DH and Edsall do not run similar offenses.

    We also recruit players who can read.

    WMTerp12

  • WMTerp12 said...

    We also recruit players who can read.

    Just, hopefully, not these boards

    BS19

  • WMTerp12 said...

    We also recruit players who can read.

    WVU just beat out Pitt for an olinemen that said academics played a heavy reason for his decision. At least some recruits are aware that WVU has more Rhodes Scholars than Pitt and Maryland combined(not sure if that is true, but it sounds good!). WVU has 25.

    It is true that the ohio linemen did state WVU's good academics were a large reason he picked WVU over Pitt.

    This post was edited by Nolaeer on 7/31/2011 at 11:46 AM

    Many of Pitt's 58 "rushing attempts" were the result qb Tino Sunseri fleeing the pocket like a man whose clothes were on fire.

    Nolaeer

  • You are using a high school kid's opinion to qualify your school's academics? Good argument.

    WMTerp12

  • WMTerp12 said...

    You are using a high school kid's opinion to qualify your school's academics? Good argument.

    You know the saying "Opinions are like assholes..."? I don't think nola heard there was a second part to that saying.

    multiple awards

  • Nolaeer said...

    WVU just beat out Pitt for an olinemen that said academics played a heavy reason for his decision. At least some recruits are aware that WVU has more Rhodes Scholars than Pitt and Maryland combined(not sure if that is true, but it sounds good!). WVU has 25.

    It is true that the ohio linemen did state WVU's good academics were a large reason he picked WVU over Pitt.

    WVa could well have a good department that the OL wants to major in. Might well be better than Pitt's comparable department. And WVa could have more RSs than Pitt and MD combined (I'm skeptical that WVa has 25, though I checked and saw that on-line).

    All of which means precious little. There can always be exceptions to the rule. The more important question is which UNIVERSITY is more highly ranked overall? And the answer is Maryland over WVa.

    Nocalterp

  • SWAGGERTERP said...

    Mike Anderson from GYFL is my guy.A former MD Terp player who is pro MD. Dematha Gilman Mt St Joe etc dont lt the kids going to their schoos participate in such leagues. But, they still want to rec ruit the others who have not chosen a school yet.

    The reason Dematha has had so many kids leave as they have, is because once McGregorleft his money pot left also.The school had to get the monies back in order.Some kids who wre only paying say $200 a month now would have to pay what the school says they should without third party help.The new evaluatons have kids running.

    This period has other schools getting some quality players coming their way that in other yrs would not even get a 1st glance.

    isnt he the agent that was banned from being around the Terps program?

    HungryHerman