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  • annapterp said...

    This along with the ridiculous academic acceptance decisions the University makes leads to less attendance by students. Maryland is a state university and highly qualified Maryland high school students are not getting accepted, or are delayed acceptance until spring semester so that some out of state jerkoff that didn't grow up on Maryland sports gets accepted for more tuition money. Its disgraceful, but thats the world we live in now.

    WAT? Yes, lets not allow smart out of state kids into Maryland. Tell me more about your great idea.

      "In the Spirit of the Pack"

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    • annapterp said...

      Times are different people. I started going to games with my parents in the 70's. Attended Maryland in the 80's. Bought my first season tickets the year before Gary came. It was ingrained in me to ATTEND games. Why..because they were not on TV!!

      Now its just easier for people to watch the games at home or in a bar. Sometimes even more enjoyable. This along with the ridiculous academic acceptance decisions the University makes leads to less attendance by students. Maryland is a state university and highly qualified Maryland high school students are not getting accepted, or are delayed acceptance until spring semester so that some out of state jerkoff that didn't grow up on Maryland sports gets accepted for more tuition money. Its disgraceful, but thats the world we live in now.

      okay, if going to post about admissions at least know the process: Out of state students do not compete with in-state students. We have a 70/30 split where the school can only have 30% of its enrollment be from out of state. We cannot replace in-state students with out of stater just because we want to, our mandate from the state won't allow.

        goterpss

      • But we could replace some of the out of state students with in state students who are still highly qualified but don't get in. I think that's what he was going for.

          terp325423

        • So, given the financial state of the university, you want us to bleed $15,000 a year per student, to accept less qualified individuals, because there's a slightly higher chance that they'll attend basketball games?

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          • spideyguy0 said...

            So, given the financial state of the university, you want us to bleed $15,000 a year per student, to accept less qualified individuals, because there's a slightly higher chance that they'll attend basketball games?

            I actually don't even think that part is true. Many out of state students KNOW about Maryland because of athletics. When they get there, that is the reason they applied so will go.......

            oh and this....

            Nonresidents make up 24 percent of the student body (70 percent of the student body must be in-state students, a Board of Regents policy dictates).

            Nonresidents make up more than half the university's tuition revenue. "We're dependent on the 24 percent to balance the budget," said John Blair, the university's director of budget and fiscal analysis.
            For every 1,000 in-state students enrolled instead of out-of-state students, the university loses $15 million, Blair said.

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            • The school intends and acceptance rate is to keep a 70/30 balance. Out of state attendance has declined as a result of the bad economy (parents have to pull their kids out of school because they can't pay the 30K/yr).

              The out of state tuition money bankrolls the school.

                goterpss

              • ColbertRepor said...

                I actually don't even think that part is true. Many out of state students KNOW about Maryland because of athletics. When they get there, that is the reason they applied so will go.......

                I was from out of state. Applied because of sports and sports only. Early-mid '80's football teams and Len Bias. Only reason I ever applied. Glad I did it. Best decision I ever made. Went to every football and basketball home game held while I was here.

                And because of me going to UMD - I have built a rabid army of Terps fans from my hometown.

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                • on the positive side all the cheers with suck in them were very imaginative

                    bobdobalina

                  • artielange said...

                    I was from out of state. Applied because of sports and sports only. Early-mid '80's football teams and Len Bias. Only reason I ever applied. Glad I did it. Best decision I ever made. Went to every football and basketball home game held while I was here.

                    And because of me going to UMD - I have built a rabid army of Terps fans from my hometown.

                    Yup. I was more knowledgeable about Maryland athletics and history than ANY of my college friends who were from in-state.

                    Many out of state kids, I would propose, are extra motivated to be at UMD. We could have gone to our own crappy in-state schools, but we *chose* Maryland...where as a lot of in-state kids "end up" at UMD just because it's convenient.

                    I viewed going to Terp sporting events as a great privilege, and it sickens me that the current students seem so flippant about the opportunity given to them.

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                    • southernterp said...

                      Yup. I was more knowledgeable about Maryland athletics and history than ANY of my college friends who were from in-state.

                      Many out of state kids, I would propose, are extra motivated to be at UMD. We could have gone to our own crappy in-state schools, but we *chose* Maryland...where as a lot of in-state kids "end up" at UMD just because it's convenient.

                      I viewed going to Terp sporting events as a great privilege, and it sickens me that the current students seem so flippant about the opportunity given to them.

                      This.

                      Some of the most devout, hardcore Maryland fans I know are out-of-state people.

                        "It's just so hard," Greivis said. "It's my heart, my love. Maryland made me who I am."

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                      • I know I'm late to this discussion but I thought I would provide some other thoughts. When it comes down to it, it is hard to pull students or anyone else to a weekday game that isn't Duke/UNC. There were more in attendance at the Miami game (12871) than the BC game (12465). I was at the game and have showed up with my season tickets but I wasn't too surprised about the showing. Am I the only person that has mentioned it was also Fat Tuesday?? Some people would rather watch a game with drink specials.

                          MocoLunchbox

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                        • MocoLunchbox said...

                          I know I'm late to this discussion but I thought I would provide some other thoughts. When it comes down to it, it is hard to pull students or anyone else to a weekday game that isn't Duke/UNC. There were more in attendance at the Miami game (12871) than the BC game (12465). I was at the game and have showed up with my season tickets but I wasn't too surprised about the showing. Am I the only person that has mentioned it was also Fat Tuesday?? Some people would rather watch a game with drink specials.

                          Its hard to get students to a game on a weekday night?? ITS COLLEGE!

                            OregonTerp

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                          • I'm living proof that you don't have to do anything in college and can graduate and be reasonably successful. There were entire months where I went to class less than 5 total days.

                            Also, the bar/drink special thing is a bullshit excuse too. You really need to get the jump on the Bentley's/Cornerstone* crowd by getting there at 7 as opposed to 10? It's a College Park bar people.

                            * Insert whatever bars are still open.

                              bkmalik

                            • Having access to all games on tv or computer and Comcast not as easy to walk to as Cole was is correlated with low attendance. Walking to Cole from fraternity row will always be a big part of my Maryland experience.

                              P.s. I remember one year, one of our conference road games wasn't on tv, so we had to listen on A.M. radio in the house.
                              How many of these entitled students of today would actually listen to a game if they had to?

                                gules27

                              • gules27 said...

                                P.s. I remember one year, one of our conference road games wasn't on tv, so we had to listen on A.M. radio in the house. How many of these entitled students of today would actually listen to a game if they had to?

                                The day I pretty much become a full fledged Maryland fan is when during my senior year of HS in 2000 not too long after I sent in my acceptance to MD I listened to the MD @ Duke game on radio (forgot which station I was listening to, might have be a national telecast picked up by one of the Syracuse stations).

                                This post was edited by OrangeTerrapin on 2/23/2012 at 9:58 AM

                                  OrangeTerrapin

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                                • gules27 said...

                                  Having access to all games on tv or computer and Comcast not as easy to walk to as Cole was is correlated with low attendance.

                                  If our students are incapable of WALKING (!!!) to Comcast, the terrorists have won.

                                    southernterp

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                                  • gules27 said...

                                    Having access to all games on tv or computer and Comcast not as easy to walk to as Cole was is correlated with low attendance.

                                    Maybe, but if you've ever been to a live college basketball game you would never chose television over a 10 minute walk.

                                      UMClassof90

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                                    • ...it is hard to pull students or anyone else to a weekday game that isn't Duke/UNC. There were more in attendance at the Miami game (12871) than the BC game (12465).

                                      I do not like seeing the lack of attendance at games. I have season tickets to three different sports at MD. I am merely discussing reasons why people, not only students, were not at the Miami game. I am being realistic and pointing out that the world does not revolve around comcast center. Relax.

                                        MocoLunchbox

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                                      • Students in all eras are fickle, so I'll try not to get too hard on them. If we had 20 wins right now and were looking like an NCAA lock you would have seen a much better crowd of both students and alums. There were some great crowds in the 2010 season for non-Duke/UNC games. But I have to repeat my earlier point that you are going to be kicking yourself when you're an old guy that you didn't take full advantage of the amazing opportunity that student tickets provide you.

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                                        • annapterp said...
                                          Now its just easier for people to watch the games at home or in a bar. Sometimes even more enjoyable. This along with the ridiculous academic acceptance decisions the University makes leads to less attendance by students. Maryland is a state university and highly qualified Maryland high school students are not getting accepted, or are delayed acceptance until spring semester so that some out of state jerkoff that didn't grow up on Maryland sports gets accepted for more tuition money. Its disgraceful, but thats the world we live in now.

                                          Except that there are plenty of schools with big "out of state" populations that fill the stands for every home game, good or bad. Economics is one thing, but it is unforgivable that so many Maryland students can so easily decide that they have something better to do than go to these games. Paul was right, we need a mandatory intro history class in UMD basketball that goes back at least as far as our entry into the ACC. There is enormous tradition here and being part of it is something that fans will always have.

                                            King Penguins, South Georgia Island

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                                          • MikeFan said...

                                            Except that there are plenty of schools with big "out of state" populations that fill the stands for every home game, good or bad.

                                            To be honest, I am not really sure how true this is (at least for schools with a student section of at least 2k).

                                              OrangeTerrapin

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                                            • gules27 said...

                                              Having access to all games on tv or computer and Comcast not as easy to walk to as Cole was is correlated with low attendance. Walking to Cole from fraternity row will always be a big part of my Maryland experience.

                                              P.s. I remember one year, one of our conference road games wasn't on tv, so we had to listen on A.M. radio in the house. How many of these entitled students of today would actually listen to a game if they had to?

                                              I don't know how many "entitled" students would do that as you say. But I can say that since I have been in Rome I have watched every terps basketball game on either gamecast or online since I have been here. And that includes waking up in the middle of the night to watch the Miami game on a Tuesday night.

                                                wbonnington

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                                              • Isn't college basketball attendance down across the board?

                                                  gurgle

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                                                • gurgle said...

                                                  Isn't college basketball attendance down across the board?

                                                  Some blame the economy, but that really isn't even an arguement that can be forged by the students being that their seats are free.

                                                    TheFranchise23

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                                                  • jsh said...

                                                    Don't call yourself a diehard if you don't go to games because "it's the worst season in years".

                                                    Unless you're at least 35, you probably don't even know what it's like to have a losing record in basketball, UNC can't even make that claim, nor can any other team in the conference with the possible exception of Duke. If the students can't show up for 16-11, what would happen if we somehow actually sucked by most other schools' definition of the word? We will probably win 17 or 18 games this year (pretty close to what we did under Gary for the last few). If the students can't support a young team with that record that has a new coach, and that has battled through all kinds of injuries, suspensions, defections, etc., then I don't see how you can use the words "die hard" and "students" in the same sentence.

                                                      OldSchoolTerp