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Kevin Anderson learned these incredible negotiating skills at the prestigious Xerox School of Management.
Don't fuck with KA at the negotiating table!
It's going to suck losing all those H&H with Duke, State, GT, and UNC. Oh wait, we lost those years ago.
Distance for 1. Also the good memories of Seth crying every year at VT, upset of BC.
I get your point, but I'm more concerned about not playing duke and UNC obviously than other schools.
I think it's kind of unrespectful- Ovie
Trolls be trollin.
Have you ever seen jdgreger or carlterp say anything positive about the Terps?
wow, this is really upsetting. I love the acc. i dont really know what to say to be honest.
Speaking for myself, I'm not criticizing the move. But I've been an ACC fan for a long, long time and even though I have some complaints, it'll be sad to leave. And I'm not looking forward to any contact with Big Ten fans who don't want 'that damned eastern school.' Even though there are some haters at every school who will rag on Maryland, for the most part other ACC fans are glad we're in the conference (and have no right to question our presence anyway, since were charter members). That's going to be different.
I think the leadership comment was in jest...
This post was edited by Jersyterrafirma 17 months ago
Well we rarely play those schools in football now a it is and we no longer have annual H&H with them in hoops.
Seems to me there has been radio silence for the teams that have actually moved whereas there has been a ton of this type of talk for the teams that didn't actually move. See discussions of when Pitt joined the ACC versus the hoopla when they were about to join the Big 10.
Plus, what has changed now for Big10? Only thing I can think of is some assurance from cable companies to make the economics shift so dramatically.
1 is better than 0.. And don't think they will ever let us play duke or UNC if the ACC doesn't want us leaving. Big 12 is punishing teams, so will the ACC (see mizzou v Kansas)
And 0 drivable games in the BIG 10 w/o Rutgers.
A&m and Mizzou had a lot of talk, so did WVU to the B12.
Agree that it seemingly is out of the blue for the B10 but I doubt it has gotten this far unless it is serious.
Uh..PSU? Ohio State?
Forgot penn state.and I'm not driving back from Ohio state after a 3:00 football start.
Also, lol @ me wanting Umd to pay for tennis teams to travel to the Midwest vs. drive to UVA or Blacksburg.
Either way, I can list way more schools closer than Ohio state in the ACC.
Have I mentioned the 50 million buy-out?
Also, if md is offered, you have to take it. Regardless of what you think of Iowa versus Wisconsin football, you don't walk away from this type of money given that the ACC's hottest commodity would probably leave under the right circumstances.
This post was edited by BlaketoHolden2 17 months ago
I understand people who grew up on the ACC but this is not THAT ACC anyway. This is a watered down version that is irrelevant in football and not the leader in basketball that it once was. The Big 10 may be a SLIGHT drop in basketball but between the relevance in football and the extra money we will get this is as close to a no brainer as you can get.
NC State fans on their board right now are saying good riddance to us. They, like some MD fans on this board, don't seem to grasp that this will keep our football in the big leagues. Even if we suck in the Big 10 we still exist. The rest of the ACC (minus Clemson and FSU who will leave soon) are basketball only schools in the near future. If you aren't in a major conference you are worthless. If we don't make this move that could easily be us. As bad as we have been in football I would be really pissed to not be in one of the real conferences.
So hard to pay for travel costs when we're making double the TV revenue.
Maryland voted no for that. They will sue and that number will be negotiated down. This is common sense.
So schools just sit around and hope that a conference calls them?
If offered we have to take it because they're not going to offer it to us again. Turn it down and were stick in the BoD when FSU/Clemson leave.
People citing the exit fee are dopes. The Big 10 TV contract will help cover that shit quickly. Also the basketball argument is tired and old. The current AP top 25 has 5 Big 10 teams vs. 3 ACC teams. Outside of UNC and Duke it's all a wash.
If people wanted to the school to be in a better position financially and not have to move, then maybe they should have bought more tickets. The sell outs at Byrd vs. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State are going to MORE than make up for any basketball lost revenue. Then again, if UMD loses any basketball revenue because of this move than our fan base really isn't as smart as it thinks it is.
Well they can talk but schools can't just invite themselves into a conference.
I've noticed some of that from other ACC schools, too. Irrational haters are usually the loudest people on message boards. Overall, though, I'd guess that most serious fans will be sorry to see Maryland go, and even more, worried about what it means for the ACC -- and their school.
Well I sent an email to Loh, .0000057% chance he even looks at it.
Exit fee is important if it doesn't get lowered.
And I'm not sure that we gain THAT much money in the long run.
Also, lets not pretend line the BIG 10 would be stable if we join. ACC could steal penn state to replace us.
Even with the current TV contract each B10 team makes 7m more than the ACC schools. That's 70m over 10 years and that number will increase when MD joins and they sign a new deal in 2017.
The B10 also gets 12.5M more a year from the Rose Bowl than the ACC will get from the OB. That's 120.5M over 10 years, plus they're guaranteed at least three OB appearances which will be an additional ~70m over the next 10 years. That's almost 200m more just from the BCS bowls over the next 10 years.
Their failure was chronic, from the founding as far as I can tell. If UMD goes to the B1G, I'll chuckle at the 4 NC schools for all their years of crappy referees.
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