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Ahh, what would have happened if Bobby Ross had stayed and the admin did what he wanted them to do in the eighties? Throw in Bias for that to as that event shaped the course for future AD's, sports programs, mismanagement, poor choices including financially and ill timed building(recession afterwards) all leading to this event of a bail out in the culmination of a poorly run sports programs/university. Yes, it's better and works for them as the "ACC" is essentially dead to purists or even those who followed 30+ years ago. Unfortunately the SEC did not come knocking on their door.
What are the realistic odds the ACC makes a play to keep us? I can't get a real read on how the other schools feel. Guessing its complicated because FSU might threaten to leave for sweeteners, amongst other reasons.
I'd be happy with ACC tourney in DC more often. It should happen regardless because adding 2 northern schools shifts the "middle" of the ACC a little bit.
I think it's kind of unrespectful- Ovie
What can they offer but conference tournaments in Bmore and DC? They can't offer us more money otherwise the other schools will start sticking their hands out too.
FWIW I would go strangle every single BOR member myself to ensure that we stay in the ACC if they would just fix the damn conference tourney problem and put it in DC every year.
Penn State have lacrosse
if Rutgers is tagging along that's 5 lacrosse teams, I think the B1G rule is that 6 teams have to play a sport for the conference to sponsor it
This post was edited by Edi 20 months ago
I knew it! THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! *shakes fist at a Bojangles*
Well if this was strictly a financial decision we wouldn't be discussing this right now. Obviously it isn't, so that is why I threw that question out there, and wasn't looking for financial compensation from the ACC (that would be ludicrous as a previous poster mentioned)...
We fly to all the Carolina schools.
This post was edited by oscarmadison 20 months ago
According to the Census, every Big Ten state except for Michigan is actually increasing in population. That is an oft-mentioned but inaccurate claim. Now, the issue is that some of the Big Ten states aren't growing as rapidly as other states in the South. But not all are in that boat.
The other thing to consider too is that the discovery of shale oil reserves in Ohio and Western Pa. could revitalize the region and lead to enormous growth potential.
They've been hiding it under the salads.
Once again, never in my post did I say where the ACC could offer something to make up the difference. I stated, because of the reluctance of some to move (sentiment or otherwise), could they be using this to get something from the ACC. Not in terms of equal compensation... jeez. Look at my original post
After seeing your post I actually went and looked at the census data and you are right. Michigan was the only state in either conference's footprint to lose population. Excluding MD (since we are, for lack of a better term, a swing state), ACC states on average have grown at a much faster rate (4% vs. 14%).
I also looked at all cities of over 200,000 people, once again excluding MD. In the last 10 years these cities in Big 10 states have lost 4% whereas ACC cities have gained 11%. Chicago was the biggest raw population loser for Big 10 with a loss of 6% (-200,000) of its population. Big 10's gainers, percentagewise, were Lincoln City, NE (10%) and Columbus, OH (13%). For ACC Charlotte and Raleigh both had greater than 25% gains.
Big 10 states are getting larger, but spreading out away from population centers.
Not that I think any of this really matters much for Conference Realignment, I'm just interested in this stuff.
This is one ACC fan that will miss you guys. Hope it doesn't happen. But if it does, beat the crap out of the Blue.
"roomers are for bitches and bitches get fucked up."
You'll still play mafia with us, right?
I'm fairly confident we don't bus to Clemson....that's a 9.5 hr bus ride.
The posters on InsideCarolina collectively might be the dumbest bunch I have ever read. I thought this was a good school. They live in fantasy land.
Eh. There's no degree requirement to post on a message board. Because of a successful basketball program, UNC has a lot of bandwagon fans and locals who have no actual affiliation to the university.
I stated it earlier, but I agree. It was nice having a fanbase around who understood how to hate dook as much as we did. If the B1G is ponying up that hard $$$ wise, then UMD has to make the move best for their bottom line, but it still blows losing a charter member.
Happy trails fellas.....and don't freeze your ass off too much in Nov/Dec away games.
if you are reading the IC free board....do yourself a favor and don't. One thing about having a basketball program like ours is you catch a TON of bandwagoners. A lot of them are really really ignorant as to driving factors behind conference shifts, et al. Premium discussion is much more level and informed (unless it's after a loss....then it's pretty much Armageddon)
This post was edited by BtownHeel 20 months ago
Yeah well you're next!
If we are, then I'm cool with that, but if Delaney is trying to pull us and UVA, he is gonna have one helluva time getting us separated from our little bros (no offense intended EAM). The NC/VA legislatures would throw an absolute conniption fit.
UVA, UNC, FSU, Clemson, and to a lesser extent GT don't have to sweat any of this all that much, as we'll land on our feet in one of the majors (SEC or B1G) if the ACC ever did implode. State/VT/Wake/BC though probably have some serious pucker factor going on right now. They are the ones in danger of being left in the cold.
If Carolina could pick a direction outside the ACC what direction would they go? The IC free board you told me not to read is 95% SEC and they throw the word Yankees around for people from the north. They seem openly hostile.
VT would be fine...just fine. I think VT is a lot more attractive than you think. VT would have been in the SEC if FSu and Clemson had pulled the trigger last year. Tempartures were absolutely 100% taken. Is that still the case? Who knows.
The only thing UVA has over VT are Academics and Olympic sports. Well.....no one is taking anyone based on the soccer or lax program. Now maybe some, like the Big10, do give some lip sevice to academics and AAU membership. But they took Nebraska anyway. Expansion is about $$$ and football.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by rthhokie92 20 months ago
Nebraska was an AAU member when they took them, fwiw.
No. This is jtp's doing. He's kept me around for his bizarre HOF resume.
I'm sure it's hard to just trick those dummies at NC State into letting you go!
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