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Just stop being ridiculous.
''How are we better than last year, if we lose to UVa, giving us 10 losses?''
Last season, we only played 16 conference games, finishing 6-10 for a .375 winning percentage. Even if we lose Sunday, we're 8-10, which is better in my book. If we win, we're .500, which is a hell of a lot better.
How about Calipari's comments after UK got smacked by Tennessee??? After the game, Calipari said his players were "not real coachable" and had their "worst practice in four years" on Friday. He harshly criticized his players for their lack of drive...
Dez wells does play like a role player and on a good team would be a role player. No idea why you think he has star potential with his lack of a consistent j and shaky handle. Shows me you dont know much about hoops. That is why i have to keep on you.
And yes since I define mediocre as just being able to make the tourney I would be ecstatic to even be mediocre with your hoops messiah at the helm '08. Keep drinking that koolaid with a patch of white in it. Maybe some day if you keep the optimism up he'll even let you taste the real thing.
I agree with this. I have doubt about Turgeon, but this must play out more.
However, some of this is on the players. I remember one post saying Len was not being coached and not taught the low post moves. He has shown many low post moves, but my key question regarding Len is does he have passion for game. He is hard to gauge because he has only been in USA 1.5 years.
I am very concerned about next year, Shaq will be undersized 5, I think he is about 6'7".5 and no point guard.
There are too many of same type players to get a set rotation
Seth Allen, Roddy Peters
Wings who are playing pg, Faust and Wells.
next year I start
1. Peters at pg, hoping he can leapfrog Allen who in my opionion does not want to play pg. This is just a desparartion guess, because our pg play has been awful.
2. Wells at 2 or 3, you must get Wells on the wings where he thrives on transition and dribble penetrattion, he shoots better than Faust.
3. Layman, he is a legit 3 who has shown he can shoot (in bad slump now) and can drive and pass, must improve defense,
4. Mitchell, He looks out of shape somewhat, but I like his overall game, I think he is frustated
5. Shaq, He needs to lose some weight, but should be our 5 next year
6. Evan S, transfer from Michigan, is starting candidate or 6th man as stretch 4, will be an impact player next year.
7. Faust, starting candidate and it is hard to see Turgeon not starting Faust, he must improve his decison making, shot and defense, My issue is that Wells and Faust are playing same position.
8. Seth Allen , could start is he develops his point guard skills., has great athletic skills, but does not play hard enough and no defense,
I kind of disagree with the notion that this staff has not developed the big men. Sure Len is frustrating but the difference between last year and this is night and day. As we keep hearing the term lottery we sometimes forget just how raw this guy was when he stepped on campus. I also look at the project that Shaq appeared to be as he threw up awkward bricks against South Carolina State. Again still a ways to go but he has shown vast improvement since December.
I am with this. I like the majority of things about Turgeon and obviously want to him to succeed, but lets face it: 2013 is a bag of dicks ACC and a total shitpile of a bubble. I did not expect some type of Final 4 run but not making the dance or finishing slightly above .500 with the average at best surrondings is supremely disappointing.
You do realize the current crop was his first recruiting class, he had not real roots established and that one of the guards he wanted to bring in was not admitted? We had a PG problem (among 4 others), the day he set foot on campus, but sure let's expect the man to fix all the problems and start a class of freshmen and sophmores and win the ACC and Natty!
SCJ would likely have helped our shooting/scoring deficit more than our PG deficit. That said, point made.
Yes and I am not down on MT. I have always been of the opinion that PH was a ACC level backup pg at best and that was before the injuries. I know we lost SC Jr. but he wasn't known as a PG same with SA. I just think MT took a big chance regarding PH.
I see no way that Smots doesn't start from day one.
hey evan williams why don't you write about how cuse blows and JB is on his way out.
OK, so maybe SCJ MIGHT have made a difference. That still doesn't excuse MT's poor play calling, lack of in-game adjustments, and horrible player utilization during games.
Exactly what plays would have worked in your book that Turgeon didn't call?
This post was edited by peteholbertsbak 13 months ago
We haven't had good pg play since GV - EH. Hard to coach around that. See GW and 2010-11 for 1,000,000,000 time!
Not every acc team is stacked at every position, freaking unc is playing without a center now, somehow we managed to spin that as a mismatch/advantage in unc's favor. Complain about the point all you want be we still have a very talented group and somewhat experienced group of 2's and 3's, a lotto pick center, a sr pf, and some good freshman.
Jordan Williams made that guard play better. Prior to Jordan's arrival GV and EH only made the tournament as freshmen.
Come on out and get your whoopin!
False, we went to the tourney gv's jr year w Dave Neal as the starting center, lost to Memphis first round, gv basically strapped the entire team on his back that season
This post was edited by Teraskins 13 months ago
Stoglin could have been a great pg but turge decided not to play him at the point, he played pg for gw and put up solid assist numbers (with a better supporting cast).
GW did absolutely nothing with TS + PH. Also TS many times in ACC play gave up more than he put up (opposing guard has a career night). We haven't had a winning combo at the guard spots since GV & EH.
That's right 7-9 record got a tourney bid. Jordan Williams made the guard play better. FACT!
Roddy is coming...If he and Nick or Seth won't become a great combo, then wait a year for Trimble.
This post was edited by Nocalterp 13 months ago
A better question is what type of offense DOES Turge run? I remember his intro press conference where one of the reporters asked him what kind of ball he plays, probably in reference to the anemic offense (low scoring variety) of his previous teams. Sensing the nature of the question, his response was, 'winning type of ball'. LOL.
Don't mistake my criticism of Turge. I WANT him to succeed. If he succeeds, the team succeeds. He's our coach for the next six friggin more years - speaking of which, when asked the generous duration (8-yr) of his contract, he replied, 'of course, I wouldn't have left (friggin A&M) for anything less!' My initial reaction to his statement was that I liked his confidence. In retrospect, it wasn't confidence, but rather the opposite. And to think that there was actually some discussion last year fearful that he'd leave us for Kansas.
I don't think anybody, and I mean anybody expected to win acc and natty. yea some folks got excited and said sweet 16/ elite 8(nuts). no, folks expected a frickin tourney bid. they expected a team playing in a shitty conference with shitty weak teams down the stretch to pull off some wins and make it at least interesting. yea turge is rebuilding, and should be able to turn it around, but this season was an absolute disappointment , an absolute failure and they absolutely underachieved.
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