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Any conference is the black knight from Monty Python...
"Your arm's off" "no it isn't!"
"I've had worse!"
It blows my mind that a ton of these ACC fans don't realize (or don't want to admit) that the ACC is being propped up with toothpicks right now. The odds are high that it continues to get plucked and we just happened to be the first to leave.
Everyone saying that we took the money and ran and that we're whores will be singing a completely different tune in 6 months or a year.....or 2 weeks for all we know when the mass exodus is happening.
Shockingly, it actually seems that NC State fans are the most in-tune with this.
When WVU wanted out of the Big East, no one in the ACC wanted them in the ACC because of academics. Now that we've left, the entire rest of the ACC is salivating over Louisville as our replacement. Louisville, which is ranked slightly above WVU and still about 50 spots behind NCSU (50 SPOTS! BEHIND NC STATE) is now a "perfect" fit and they won't miss us at all. Charlie Strong isn't staying at Louisville for long. He's an SEC guy.
Or they could add UConn, and piss off FSU/Clemson/GT even more than they did with the Pitt/Syracuse addition.
I wouldn't be surprised if the ACC looks stable for a little bit while all the other schools are seeing if/how we get out of the $50 million. If we get out of it or even get it reduced, they bail. I could also see UVa jumping to the Big Ten and then there's a death fight for number 16.
There are rumors that Swofford has been trying to get the teams left to sign a Grant of Rights (GOR) like the Big Ten/Big 12/Pac 12 and that it got voted down.
Anybody know if she has a third nipple?
I do not see us getting out of the exit fee, but reduced to say $20M ...maybe.
As to the 15th spot in the B1G, I think UNC has a decent shot at it, or perhaps GT because of the ATL market.
For the 16th slot, you are right...a death fight.
UNC has more than a decent shot. They are one of the white whales of realignment.
This is true, especially the NC State part, although you really can't blame the Wake fans for not wanting to accept the reality of it all.
Yow will refuse any offer of a lifeboat when the good ship ACC sinks.
I haven't read through this whole thread, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't equate the N&O or DeCOCK with UNC. It's a Raleigh paper, and essentially a mouth piece for packpride.com at this point. They've been waging war against us for the past three years.
PS - sorry to see you go... too bad this conference sucks and we'll more than likely be stuck in it.
UNC is a Top 5 brand in all of college athletics. It is a white whale in the eyes of conference commissioners and you could go anywhere you want by making one phone call. Having lived in NC, and having several relatives that went to UNC, the problem is that you have attached your identity so tightly to southern heritage and ACC heritage that your university leadership will not have the guts to pull the trigger IMHO. The conference would have to totally collapse for you guys to move. Thanks for the well wishes and hope you guys join us someday.
You will be more than fine. It's only a matter of time before you guys go to the Big 10 too
Yeah, like others have said above, The next 6-12 months are going to be pretty sad for a once-great conference. It all starts as soon as the exit fee is slashed in court. Stampede!
Despite the fact that a lot of NCSU message board people are intolerable, MD fans might wanna get used to the fact that they will be OK post armageddon, most likely comfy in the SEC.
You are right that Delany saw the opportunity to poach the ACC out of the ACC's recent dumb decisions, but it had nothing to do with PSU leaving. PSU makes twice as much money in the B10 on athletics and hundreds of millions more in research dollars. And it actually gets to play in a real football conference. FWIW our basketball is also better (sorry, but except for UNC and Duke ACC hoops has slipped significantly in recent years). The ACC panicked. They made dumb moves with their new TV deal and with their decision to add Syracuse and Pitt (more basketball schools with subpar football). Then the ACC did the dumbest thing of all ... they let ND join for non-football sports. Nothing says we are a conference in decline like letting ND bend you over for an extra football game or two per year. Delany smelled blood in the water and decided it was time to take over the lucrative Northeastern media markets. The BE and ACC have been sitting on the best media markets in the country for decades and have done absolutely nothing with them. Delany is going to turn them into a money machine.
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Nothing would please me more; however, historically, the Northeast has always been more interested in professional sports over college sports. If Delany can turn that around, he's a genius.
Call me a relic, call me what you will,
Say I'm old-fashioned, say I'm over the hill....
Sorry, but basketball doesn't pay the bills. If it did, the BE would have been one of the wealthiest conferences instead of the poorest. There is a reason Syracuse and Pitt wanted out and it's not because the basketball competition was no good.
Well, they did have easy access to the UNC trash cans.
Just watch. Delany is a genius. An evil genius, but he's our evil genius.
I can't wait to see the look on his face when the UNC admin comes to him and tells him his house has been sold to the B10 or the SEC.
It's a long term play. Think 20 years. We have pro sports and pro sports citites in the Midwest. In the huge media markets its not taking over an entire city but rather gaining a degree of traction and relevance.
Good one. They also scanned UNC's website and filed numerous FOI requests.
MARYLAND. The area they’re now calling the DMV—D.C./Maryland/Northern Virginia—might be the country’s richest talent mine.
Exactly. Chicago and Detroit are two of the biggest pro sports towns in the country. Cleveland, Cincy, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh too. But the states of Michigan, Illinois, Ohio and Pennsylvania each support multiple BCS schools with some of the largest and most successful athletic departments in the country. Pro and college sports are not mutually exclusive. Delany is building a gravy train and UMD just got one of the golden tickets.
Athletic Department Budgets (FY 2011-2012)
1. Texas $163.3 MM
2. Ohio State $131.8 MM
3. Michigan $128.8 MM
4. Alabama $123.9 MM
5. Florida $123.0 MM
6. Penn State $116.1 MM
Note: For comparison purposes, UNC's budget is $71.4 MM and UMD's is $57.8 MM. Almost immediately upon joining the B10, UMD's budget should jump to an amount larger than UNC's. I hope you are working on ideas for how you plan to spend the extra money.
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UNC's fans want the SEC. The big 10 will not agree to a tourney in Greensboro, ACC refs and Raycom.
The exact opposite of this sentiment has been vehemently championed on various MD boards for, I dunno, as long as the internet has existed.
Its our excuse for not getting rid of Yow, Officer Tau and his clones and not changing totally inept marketing.
Bulldoze Route 1 and redevelop it along with adding better traffic control (post and pre game) along with better marketing and attendance will improve markedly. We've lost many potential fans due to the lousy traffic control.
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