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Outside of OSU, Michigan..shouldn't our recruiting be on par with rest of the big ten? Nebraska recruits well, but not like it did in the 80s n 90s. PSU is on heavy probation. Shouldn't we at least be on par with Michigan State n Wisconsin? Something tells me our recruiting has been just as good as theirs over the years - on paper. We constantly finished 8th or 9th in the ACC recruiting behind Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNC, NC State, VT and Virginia.. we could easily be in the top half in the Big Ten - on paper I stress.
Outside of Michigan and Ohio, everyone is struggling. Penn State was finally putting together a top 7 class after they hired a coach who actually cared about recruiting, until the sanctions came down.
Illinois always has very good talent, but they've never been able to consistently keep them in state. Michigan State has been losing Michigan recruits to Brady Hoke big time. Wisconsin's in state talent is pretty bad.
Bottom line, if you're able to keep even half the Maryland recruits, that should be good for top 4 as of right now.
This post was edited by gearyMaize 17 months ago
If somehow Maryland can start keeping their top players from leaving the state they would be in great shape. Below is just a short list of college players from Maryland High schools who are starting for college teams this season. Not all of them might start at Maryland but they would certainly add needed depth. On a side note who is the last Maryland high school QB to have a really good college career at QB?
C. Kouandjio Alabama
A. Kouandjio Al (2nd team)
The key for us is going to be the lines. We always have good linebackers and the skill position players aren't that hard to find.
Plus, we need to start making some inroads in northern Virginia, an area that largely ignores us. Hopefully the allure of the Big Ten is enough to start landing some of those top kids.
EJ FERGUSON~ LSU DT From Fredrick MD
I'm biased, of course, but I can't see how the kids that now go to Carolina, VTech, UVA or NC State wouldn't see us differently playing Ohio State or Nebraska or Michigan. Even assuming no more ACC attrition, Tech, FSU and Miami aren't what they once were.
The Offensive line recruiting is pretty good. If we can snag Na'Ty Rodgers to go along with Dulaney, Grey ..with Madaras already here, we could have a pretty damn good line. The key is getting depth and size on the D line. If you got physical, big lines, thats winning half the battle in the Big 10.
This thread right here is a sign of our biggest problem.
Our football recruiting now that we're in the Big Ten should be the #1 topic BY FAR right now. But our fans just don't give a shit.
This a manager town, workers (players) don't matter, get the right mgmt and wins appear automatically.
Its a fine theory as long as your competitors also follow it. Its hard to imagine what Alabama, Notre Dame, Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State or Florida would do to MD, but it would not be pretty. They have players plus coaching.
This post was edited by alexander2 17 months ago
MARYLAND. The area they’re now calling the DMV—D.C./Maryland/Northern Virginia—might be the country’s richest talent mine.
I seem to remember Illinois doing well in the Big 10 with recruits from this area. If only we had that coach/recruiter.
Ron Zook would be a great replacement of Rangoon.
In a short answer, YES, there is no reason you won't recruit as well as most all the schools in the BIG.
The biggest difference in the Northwesterns, Illinois, Purdue's etc isn't necessarily always their first team talent, it's the depth talent. I think the biggest difference in OSU games this year is just that. PSU's first team isn't that much less talented than OSU's but when their starting DL got tired, the 2nd team was a drop off.. That's the reason SEC has been dominating in the last 6 years, their DL has no drop off when they come in and they continue to bring the heat.
The only way the BIG will start to compete with the SEC is by spending some of the money we're making, pay to bring in some name coaches that HS kids want to play for, and then we can start to get that depth. Teams like Minnesota right now? Nope, you aren't gonna get a 4 star DE to come in and play 2nd string.
People just need to be downloaded on the ways of the B1G recruiting. Pipelines need to be opened and alliances need to be forged with power brokers in these states.A power broker to me is a person that knows alot of quality kids from a particular area i.e. Akron,Cleveland,St. Louis,Pittsburgh or Cincinnati.They have personal relations with family and coaches.I have such a person in Ohio who is king of Akron and Cleveland.I left Steinberg a message if this is important to them then they'll call back.example of a Diggs/Tabor combo player Corey Smith http://youtu.be/bgkCzNSEKOA
This is perfectly stated. It's the same reason why Maryland the first few years under Fridge could beat anyone in the ACC but FSU regularly and would trade punches with any team for the first quarter or half but against the better teams or end of year would fall. Terps had starters as good as most teams in the nation but there was a huge drop off when bringing in second stringers.
It's the reason the SEC is so dominant. Alabama's 3rd string DE is as good as the starter. Injury doesn't matter, replace with next guy up. Every player stays fresh because they can substitute frequently ingame. Depth is huge. Coaching is obviously the other big difference. Big ten is probably the only conference that stands anywhere close to SEC. Look at Auburn this year. Chizik goes 14-0 and wins a national championship just 2 years ago and will be fired after this season. The teams just don't stand for down years.
You're right, the SEC doesn't sit idle and give a coach time to "rebuild" if they were on top....If you are good one year, you better damn well be good every year. Honestly, the only 2 teams that have had that mentality is Mich and OSU. RichRod wasn't given time to get a full 4 recruiting classes in to fit his system, he wasn't winning, GONE.
It all boils down to the BIG teams opening the checkbook and bring in some names the HS kids have heard of. Again, they aren't lining up to play for the guy in Minnesota. Minnesota should've kept Mason if this is the route they were going to take. Mason brought in NFL OL and RB's every year.
I don't see why we don't just "offer" Nick Saban $10 million a year and leak it to the press after he wins his 4th national title this year.
We are in the Big 10 now. We will have more interest in our program from coaches than we did last time around.
Its not the fans, the realism here is NO ONE gives a shit that we are in the Big Ten for football. To the existing B10 teams and potential recruits - we are the new Indiana, someone to beat up on every year. No one, especially recruits, are looking at this move as a step up into the limelight for football.
We are in this conference for 2 reasons only: the DC market and basketball.
I just went back and looked at the last few classes to see where Maryland would have slotted into the Big Ten's class rankings (which all include Nebraska on rivals)
2009 - 5th
2010 - 6th
2011 - 9th
2012 - 5th
We really need to step up our game in NJ. We should be pulling in at least 3-4 recruits from NJ every year, with at least one 4 star.
i think despite edsall and our QB woes, our football program has a new energy that is exciting and has momentum. I can see a lot of reason for B1G teams to be excited about adding us. i don't think anyone wants MD football to be a doormat including the other schools. all my friends from big ten schools are happy about bringing us into the fold.
i'm sysed that our whole recruiting landscape is going to change now and i predict we'll be getting some nice corn-fed talent that we never dreamed of before.
Remember Andrew Crummey? I'm not saying his likes grow on trees, but there are a lot of OLs like him in the midwest; kids with solid fundamentals, decent athleticism, and a passion for the game. If we don't upgrade the depth of our OL after this move then we're doing something wrong.
ohio's gonna be tough for awhile, imho, and not because of osu/michigan/notre dame. there's plenty of talent left in the state after those three get their guys...
the reason i think it's gonna be tough is because every other team in the big ten has deep roots all over ohio going back decades, and a lot of kids go to those schools and do very well...not to mention schools like cincy and louisville...
if i'm maryland and i want to get into ohio, i start off concentrating on a specific area for a few years--akron/canton would be my first choice--land some under the radar kids who would normally be off to msu or wisconsin or wherever, and hope they pan out. then you've got your base..."look ohio recruits, we've got these ohio boys coming down here to the nations capital and performing". jmho
however, imo you don't need to add to your recruiting footprint. just find a way to lock down the dmv and you'll be on your way. actually, not even lock it down, just improve on what you've been doing. locksley should be able to do that. lot of talent down there.
I'm encouraged by this staff's recruiting simply because I think their HS talent evaluation skills seem to be much better than Fridge and Co. I think we will have slightly higher ranked classes from now on than we did under Fridge, but more importantly I think in general they will perform better and have fewer duds and busts.
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