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For those of you who don't speak K let me translate:
"Maryland doesn't appreciate the fact that we at Duke have allowed them to remain in our conference for all these years. We have allowed Maryland to play at Cameron Indoor. We have allowed Maryland to win the ACCT a few times. We have gone so far as to allow Maryland to win games against our elite basketball program from time to time. Obviously, all the "outsiders" who made the decision to leave the ACC don't understand how grateful they should be for Duke's generosity. Maryland will not find a master as generous as we have been. There is nothing more distressing than the "help" getting uppity."
One ACC tournament in the DC area in the past 25 years tells you everything you need to know.
Since 1988, # of ACC tournaments held in each state:
North Carolina: 19
Florida: 1 (in St. Petersburg for some reason)
And the next 3 will be held in Greensboro Coliseum.
This post was edited by Major Major 18 months ago
ACC Tournaments lifetime (60+ years):
DC - 2
Rest - WGAF
That is all.
K and the rest simply don't get it.
This post was edited by sigman58 18 months ago
The interesting part of this is that the first ten or twelve Toon-a-mints were played in Reynolds Coliseum, State's home court. This despite the fact that when Cole Field House opened in 1955, two years after the organization of the ACC, it held more people than Reynolds.
Call me a relic, call me what you will,
Say I'm old-fashioned, say I'm over the hill....
A good (and old) friend of mine (Good Counsel /Univ of Del), has worked and retired from IBM in the Raleigh/Durham Research Triangle area. Since he moved down there, ( time of Elmore, McMillen, Trimble, Porac, etc.), he acknowledged that UMd had to be at least 5 points better to be even (before the 3 pt shot which really changed the game altogether).
He loved when we got to the FF in 2001, just hated to see us playing UDuke as he knew what awaited us w/officials (just the Duke, UNC bias). He loved when we were playing Indiana in 2002, no perceived B1G bias.
He has given up "discussions" w/co-workers on the obvious bias towards UMd and instead started to convince them wrt NCSt, which his son was attending. They started to see the light, but it is growing dim as NC St has brought in a pretty good team and is running the way they used to when Lefty first started (late 60's, early 70's). Now that NC St. is winning, he says they no longer see the bias.
Personally I've been done w/the ACC for a while, as it has been the big two (UNC, UDuke), since everyone else, including us has dropped off of the pretty high caliber of play that used to exist. The B1G seems to have cornered the market for now, and I think we will profit in many ways from being a member. You get tired of the fight and I think we will fit in reasonably well, LAX excepted.
If K is so hot for tradition, why did he leave West Point (his alma mater) to coach Duke? Could it be he was going to make more money? Would he have taken a pay cut to coach Duke or better yet, would he have left Duke to coach Indiana if Bobby Knight had asked him to take over? Inquiring minds want to know.
Ratface = Margaret White
So, if he's found nailed to a door with a couple of dozen kitchen knives...
k, who? k, not capitolized with reason!!!!
I grew up in the northeast and was never much of an ACC fan. I always thought of it as a snide southern conference.
I went to UMD cause it was the best school in this area that I could afford to put myself through. I immediately understood that if I was gonna go to an ACC school, Maryland had to be it, because while we are assholes, at least we admit to being assholes.
Leaving the ACC doesn't bother me a bit. k is a perfect example of the holier than thou, present one image to the world while being a selfish cold blooded ruthless bastard behind the scenes attitude the ACC and the NC schools have been exhibiting for years. They are assholes, who want people to think they are genteel and traditional.
Annoys the crap out of me.
Specifically, Cole was the second largest arena in the entire united states after the old madison square garden.
I swear we have a persecution complex at MD. I get it already... f*ck the ACC for all the Carolina bias and never holding the tourney in the DC metro area and yada yada yada. Some of that shizz is legit and worth griping about but to the point where you're willing to celebrate ditching out on the best basketball conference in the land..... That makes no sense to me. I know it was ultimately about $ and I realize the the top of the B1G is really, really good this year-no doubt. But the bottom is woeful and painful to watch. You got at least 4 maybe 5 schools in the Big East that set the game back 50 years. I hate Duke and Carolina and State and preppy UVA and Tech can f*ck themselves too. Michigan, OSU, Minnesota, Iowa: mehhh.
I come in peace from the Michigan State board! You will be welcomed into the B10 with open arms. You will be wealthier than ever before. You will still be able to play ACC teams especially when you beat them in the B10/ACC challenge each year!!!
You will be able to watch all of your football and basketball games along with many other sports anywhere in the US on the B10 Network.
I can't wait to play MD in all sports. Good luck and I am glad to have you in the conference.
I gave your post an upvote. That said, your saying "I can't wait to play MD..." struck a nerve. I recall the last two times we DID PLAY you guys. Tournament in 2010 and 2003 ring a bell?
Uh, you're forgetting that Thanksgiving tournament a few years ago when we were pretty bad but still took it to Michigan State.
And the November tournament two years before that.
Beating teams in November but losing to them in March is awesome.
eamhokie94: Is your name Nazi in pig Latin?
Fun fact: we haven't faced Michigan State in a non-neutral-site game since 1955.
I remember those games and was trying not to mention them. Although 2010 was a buzzer beater and you all probably should have won that game. If it makes you feel any better the player that shot the buzzer beater was kicked off our team the following year for getting into legal trouble amongst other things. I suspect we will have a lot of those close games in the future as we both have great basketball programs. I root for MD as my ACC team and will always have them as my second favorite when they join the B10. Good luck and beat the hell out of the four NC teams this year!
And I was really referring to the fact that I can see MSU play at Comcast.
This post was edited by SpartyOnDC 18 months ago
I truly think that most Terp fans are very happy to be heading for the B1G. No doubt it will take us a while to get acclimated, but we will - and other than FB, we should do well in many sports right off the bat. I also think that some of the geography notwithstanding (Nebraska and Iowa come to mind), we will have more in common with most of those schools than we will with some of the redneck, Bojangles BS we have endured in this turd conference for 60 years.
King Penguins, South Georgia Island
You and Hogie are correct, of course. I was implying we played them twice, losing heartbrakers, in very meaningful NCAA tournament games, and I remembered.
You guys won't be the outsiders, PSU is and always will be the outsiders. Very weird group up there. If your board members are any reflection of your fanbase then you guys will fit in nicely. Sometime when you have a few minutes you don't mind wasting, go to the "Lions Den" on PSU board and just read what they are talking about....they are straight up dilusional people. Still think they were done wrong, JoePa was innocent, and who can they write a letter or petition next, they always have the absolute best players and can't believe they don't win every award out there...strange crowd..
I think we have more in common with Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan St. and Indiana than most of the ACC. Even though those schools are midwestern (except PSU) they still have a somewhat east coast, metropolitan culture and focus. We have less in common with the schools west of Indiana, but not any less than the redneck ACC schools.
or to put it another way, forget about sports for a moment, but imagine a big cocktail party where on one side is a group of ACC alums, with the UVA and Wake douches, the Clemson southern gentlemen, the NC state guy with the bluetooth on his ear and then you see a group of Michigan, Michigan st., ohio state, Indiana grads. I think an average MD alum would be more likely to go hang out with the latter group.
Granted i live in NJ, but i associate/know a lot more B1G alums, whether it be PSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, etc. (basically every school other than Purdue or Iowa). The only ACC alums that i ever run into are Duke, VT and, occasionally, a Virginia grad.
That is Fing brilliant, love it...
LOL, sparty, I think that makes us feel worse...
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