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I appreciate what fridge did but it was time to go.
We would not have Diggs, or Brown, or a lot of the local talent we have now with Fridge. Sure we wouldn't have lost Dill or garcia but in the long run we are better off at this point without ralph. HS coaches didn't like him and he couldn't recruit. Surprisingly coaches and kids like Edsall even if a lot of people here don't.
I don't think edsall is a great coach or even a good one. hes probably avg to slightly above and we could have done better with the hire but we could have done much worse.
Pic Sigs are for losers.
There is lots of gray in all the discussion of Fridge. While on the one hand, it is fair to look at his whole body of work, on the other hand, if his first three years were his last three years, he'd still be HC.
How are we better off in the long run when he is currently 6-15 as head coach, and the stadium is empty? Were you there this weekend, it wasn't BC of last year, but it was bad. We lost 1 out of 4 season ticket holders this past year, what does a 4-8 season, 6-18 overall, with an abrasive coach going to do next year for season tickets? Does Diggs and Brown have 15K relatives to fill the stands?
And how could have we done worse with the head coach hire? We hired Jerry Sandusky instead or Ron Vanderlinden again?
The unfortunate thing for Ralph was that he always had to spend too much of his time covering his back instead of just coaching, and it was mostly a losing battle for him after the 2006 Champs Bowl. But you can't change what is, and the "what is" is that Edsall and the Administration were in lock step that a.) the Friedgen Era was over, and b.) that Edsall was going to tear down and RE-BUILD the entire Program. That's it.
That being said, I think the team will compete next year and Bowl.
Who cares who does it? You think Fridge would have gotten some of the big-time kids he got early on without Locksley and then Franklin? It works both ways. I hate defending Edsall, but it's hard not to with some of the ridiculous statements made on this board. Can we throw out Edall's 2-10 season, too, since we have now thrown out Fridge's?
"That being said, I think the team will compete next year and Bowl."
Well. apparently that's all Addicted wants, so he should not be complaining after this year. Expectation to go to a bowl and 6-9 wins is what he said. If that's the norm after this year, it would seem like Edsall is Fridge. In fact, we would have had that this year if not for the QB injuries. So, all this fuss about nothing!
This post was edited by terpfan83 20 months ago
I agree with this. I also agree with addicted2ravens. I wonder if the 'Goon would get a look from another place where a job might be opening up. A place like Kentucky surely has to like his complexion and his haircut. I know he seems like a disaster, but you can definitely think that we would have had a decent season if CJ Brown was healthy. I haven't been an Edsall fan, but I've been able to accept the fact that, for now, he is the coach and I cheer for the team. But, even with all of the injuries this year, I still doubt that we'll ever be anything more than decent while he's our coach, and if he could get another job after this season I'd be very excited for him!
He did not chew out Cam Chism! That is bullshit. Saying something does not equal chewing out. I've been displeased with Edsall as much as anybody, but he rarely gets in a players face and chews their asses out. Fridge did way more of that than the crewcut does.
@ 4:40..."Though Cameron by the way did get a pretty good tongue-lashing from new head coach Randy Edsall"
This post was edited by 2005Terp 20 months ago
Some of my friends love Fridge and some hate him.
Fridge was exactly who he said he was. Nothing else. He was very upfront to me whether I liked it or not. I knew he meant what he said and said what he meant.
The Terps did have trouble recruiting for 2 years. That was changed when Franklin came back. However the hiring of Franklin made things a little awkward. (Debbie Yow)
Then came Don Brown. Brown is and was a fireplug. Our defense turned up the heat big time and we started recruiting Florida again. Don Brown and Franklin were 2 very good recruiters.
My Take is if Ralph had stayed, Marylands record would be closer to 18-6 then 6-18.
So what does this all mean? It means NOTHING! Hindsight is 80-20
Let Locks bring in the recruits. Its what he does best. Just LOCK HIM DOWN!
That one doesn't even show Edsall talking to Chism afterwards. Sure, Reece Davis described it as a tongue-lashing, which was a dumb description because when you see it it looks pretty mild. Chism is even smiling about it. He did not get chewed out unless being talked to by your coach for anything means you got chewed out.
I don't think he chewed him out either but as I've stated before he did point out some sort of game management lapse to Cam (technically it wasn't a lapse at all-the expected PAT would have put us up by 9), but when Edsall himself makes a bone headed decision, there's an explanation.
That aside, other than the last game, the players are playing harder. Hopefully we'll have the talent and depth to compete on a higher level. the tangibles are still in question however, and that includes whether guys can develop to a high level of play (instead of regressing) and whether Edsall can manage games better. We've found a lot of ways to lose the last two years.
I think we all know Edsall has a ceiling, one much lower than any of us wants. But at this point you just root for him to build a foundation and then hope the next guy takes it to a higher level. And I'm not talking unrealistic BCS or regular division winner level.
Isn't it sad that we peaked as a program that night...his first game.
Funny that Edsall didn't complain about depth, talent, culture, rebuild, DOB, lack of practice hours, etc before or after that Miami game.
I kind of agree. The commonality for both 2-10 seasons was that both Fridge and Edsall placed personal agendas before the team's agenda those years imo. just an observation, but Fridge was all blame and hardly motivating in 2009-maybe he was pissed about the HCIW. Edsall similarly was more interested in his way/his program than a successful season in 2011.
I would not lose any sleep if Edsall took another job. It's not going to happen, though. He's going to get at least next year and maybe one more to prove himself here. I can't imagine he gets more than that if we're still mediocre. As Addicted has said, we were promised "good to great."
I think all three of these guys are mediocre coaches who are products of their environment, but I would take take Edsall among the three of them in a heartbeat. Edsall's biggest problem is that he followed a coach at MD who averaged ~eight regular season wins per year. I think any rational person realizes that is a pretty good winning % for a school like MD, and you have to be really good to be better than that on a consistent basis. You can blame Edsall for not seeing far enough ahead to realize this or, more likely, he came here to collect a fat paycheck near his home/he really had some genuine affinity for Maryland as he claimed. The people who should really be blamed are the morons who decided it was a good idea to fire Friedgen in an attempt to put their stamp on the program. I am optimistic we will see Friedgen type results next year, and the program seems like it does have some momentum. However, the program has lost tons of revenue over the last two seasons, alienated a lot of fans which bodes poorly for future revenues, and paid off an alumni who now hates Maryland. That is a very expensive mistake. If you are going to fail, then fail big at least by hiring Leach. People will forgive you for trying. I think they realized this by taking a chance and hiring Locksley. Bottom line is I think a lot of the blame people want to attach to Edsall is misplaced, and we might as well let him attempt to try or fail big at this point (which should be no earlier than the end of next year). The real blame should be directed at Kevin Anderson or his superiors for some or all a combination of firing Friedgen, not realizing they would be allowed to hire Leach in the first place, and giving Edsall a ton of guaranteed money.
Obviously you are unfamiliar with the concept of "Long run"
I really hate this argument that we have always been just OK in football, so why expect more than that? Talk about creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
But aiming low has always been the hallmark of Maryland athletics, so why change now?
We're not aiming low at all right now. The fact that we launched an all out assault to lock down local talent with the hire of Locksley should tell you that as much as the shiny new uniforms and field does.
That we were as competitive as we've been so far this year is a positive sign. We are playing freshmen literally everywhere including the most important positions. But we'll be ok in the long-run (read this part carefully, jdgreger because that doesn't mean by the end of this season) as long as we get a healthy competent QB back and Diggs sticks around.
I disagree about your ''But aiming low has always been the hallmark of Maryland athletics'' based on our last three basketball HC hires.
Maybe football, but even then, it's not the ''aim.'' KA aimed nice and high, based on his ''good to great'' mantra.
Huh, Anderson was aiming high? By hiring Edsall? I'd hate to see what it's like when he settles.
Anyway, it's not so much the hires (in football and basketball) as it is the expectations. Our goals have always been weak. I'll give Fridge this much credit: When he came here, he talked about the team being on the national stage. Did we get there? Well, almost but not really, but at least he got us thinking this way.
The important thing is that I was a student between 1998-2003. Big fat LOL for everyone before and after me.
I was in school the same years. You got out of the gate with 2 painful years and finished strong. Incidentally I went to school with Duff's daughter and she's hawt.
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