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I think Wells is right about where I expected him to be. We are a couple of games into the season and he is top three in most stat categories. Whats more important are his leadership skills, and these are developing nicely. By midseason there will be no question about this.
Yeah, he put up 17/12 as a sophomore. I know, I was there. He was a phenomenal college player and would have continued to be. But it would have been impressive enough for him to sustain those numbers for three years, let alone improve upon them. Not saying he would have been any worse as a player, but what kind of numbers do you think he would have put up last year with ball hog Stoglin and nobody else?
I'm not knocking Jordan, he would have been all-ACC every year no doubt but it seems pretty clear that he had pretty much reached his ceiling by the end of his sophomore year.
Obviously sophomore JW was a better college player than sophomore Len btw. Anybody saying otherwise just wasn't paying attention two years ago, or they've forgotten how good Jordan really was.
I would contend that senior Len would have been a better player than senior JW though, but unfortunately we'll obviously never know for either
The latter part is certainly possible, but saying he reached his potential is speculative and probably incorrect.
I understand your point now but..... to be fair, let the ACC season play out and revisit this in a few months. I beleive it will be a wash. He's already in the First Team ACC conversation now.
people are forgetting how dominant jordan was
im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.
Len can also hit 18 footers (or at least keep D's honest), block/alter shots, and is money from the line. Jordan was great, but I think in retrospect Len's season will hold up much better to Jordan's.
We aren't even into ACC play yet and I don't really think people are factoring in defense in this comparison.
By the end of this year Alex Len could certainly have a better soph season than JW.
Yeah, Williams was the best rebounder we had in years, but his post defense was pretty bad.
Part of being dominant is helping your team win, JWill had a harder time winning as Soph (albeit with fewer legit options around him than Len has)
This post was edited by Montana Terp 16 months ago
Offensively he was a beast, but he left a lot to be desired on defense
Maybe, but I doubt he averaegs 17 and 12 and at this point in their careers JW was the more dominant player. No one thinks that Len doesn't have upside way higher, but that isn't the point. Anyway, it's awesome to have a player as good as Len.
Len likely won't average 17/12 but he doesn't have to. Way more talent/depth on this year's team.
What Faust and Wells are better than Bowie and Tucker? Now I've heard everything.
I agree. And I think that Len is a phenomenal player. But people drastically underrate how good Jordan Williams was his sophmore year, especially early in the season, and mainly because they're still bitter at him leaving.
I'll agree that Jordan was a very good college player, but I do remember him having a lot of trouble with taller players (GT frontline comes to mind, even though it was made up of NBA players) because he was an under the rim type of player. I think Len will be effective vs anyone in the post, both wide and tall.
Dez is a beast.
If you just look at straight numbers Jordan's season will look better. I don't think it is, or will end up being, a clear cut answer in terms of who is more dominant. Len already has the ability to affect the game drastically on both ends of the court. He is showing pro movies. He doesn't need to do as much but I think he will end up having just as big of an impact this season as JW did during his soph season.
Len is a dominant defender. Every coach would take him over Jordan. Len covers up a lot of mistakes. It's really not close. The gap between JW and Len on offense is closer than on defense.
No shit Len is the better defender.
The question is SENIOR Jordan vs SOPHOMORE Len.
Eh, let it go. Both are/were excellent players and we should be very glad they both chose Maryland. Lets just leave it at that.
Thought our best offense against BC came when he was running point. Ironic, because his ballhandling has been a circus act this season, but he can get to the rim at will (and actually finish). Not sure if his playing point was just a function of the matchup (#25 couldn't guard him) or if it was planned, but it seemed to open things up for the team.
(that said, he also looked amazingly disinterested in the first half, almost like he was sick. that left-handed pass to nobody was puzzling at best), but looked good in the 2nd.
This post was edited by peteholbertsbak 15 months ago
If we had an actual point guard then Dez's ability to slash and distribute or finish at the rim would be an even greater asset. The kid is a competitor and a hard worker. I have no doubt that he will improve his J and be an even better offensive threat next year than he already is now.
Now that we have some ACC games under our belt, I think this statement is waaaaaaay off. He's been getting torched lately. Last night was the worst.
Yeah I actually think both of you are a little bit right.
He does play very good off his man defense. When he is back there hanging around the basket the opposition rarely drives to the hoop and if they beat their man and get to the lane Alex does a nice job of blocking or altering their shot. When he goes out our entire defense changes. The other team attacks the rim much more aggresively if Mitch, Shaq, or god forbid Padgett are playing the interior.
However, I have been a little disappointed with him on his man to man defense. As you say, last night his man made way too many buckets on him. I mean he had a 5 inch and 30 pound advantage on his guy and he got beat way too many times. He has to be tougher one on one.
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