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Breaking: Stoglin Declares for NBA

  • I wonder if Stoglin knew on Saturday, seemed in pretty good spirits when I said hi to him at Maryland day. FYI - Turge wasn't there, apparently he was on a recruiting trip. Maybe he knew he had to replace the teams best scorer. Should be an interesting year.

    johnz

  • TheArsenal said...

    I'm not trying to excuse Stoglin. But you seem to be saying that it's ok to require student athletes to do anything as long as you tell them in advance. I'm saying that drug testing for marijuana makes no sense and is punitive against student athletes who make a lot of money for their schools. I don't care if they tell everybody in advance or not - it's a stupid rule. (and yes, Stogs is dumb for failing 3x. College kids do dumb shit.)

    Nobody forced him into anything. If he didn't like the conditions set on his receiving a scholarship to a major university, he could have said no. I'm all for drug legalization. This isn't even about that. If the university said that all scholarship basketball players have to rub their bellies and pat their heads at 2 pm every day, and this was well known before kids ever signed their LOIs, that's the agreement.

    wcterp

  • One thing is for sure, his lack of foresight is going to cost him in the pocketbook. If he is NBA material the 3 strikes he took in college will affect him at the bargaining table. Incredibly stupid judgment on his part.

    Stogs, give it up for now, make your money and then smoke till your hearts content.

    hokthu

  • iheartjamesgist said...

    Count me in as one (of the few, it seems) who's in favor of our school doing things the right way. We'd be absolutely blasting a team like UConn if they didn't suspend one of their top players for failing 3 drug tests. I like Stoglin, but he was warned and continued to break the rules.

    +1

    Layman ... Jake Layman!

    reeceg1

  • I amazed at posters defending Stoglin here.

    MDTerp84

  • MDTerp84 said...

    I amazed at posters defending Stoglin here.

    Their only defending him because he was our best player this year and the best chance we had to make the tournament. If it were Parker who was suspended for failing 3 drug tests, no one would care.

    Baldwin

  • Makes room for Armand, the third Henderson...

    Jersyterrafirma

  • 286 said...

    lol we are small time. we need an AD who wasnt a complete dork. every athlete smokes weed. its fucking weed. your kids smoke weed.

    Yeah, even unemployed 30 year olds like you who spend all day in their parents' basement typing comments on messageboards wearing nothing but their undies smoke weed.

    EVERYBODY knows that.

    carlterp ●

  • DarrellGreenFan said...

    Yeah I really don't get the hate on Stogs the player. Stogs was one of the most dynamic scorers we've had around here in a while. With more help he doesn't take so many off balance 20 footers. But when he looked up and saw Padge, Weis, P and Faust standing around deferring to him as the shot clock wound down he really had little choice but to take it himself.

    Put him around better talent and he would have been a different player IMO. Besides as some have posted even with all the bad shots he was among the league leaders in FG %.

    To pretend that he won't be missed, or that Faust was somehow better, is just stupid.

    + 1

    dolphin_md

  • I can't believe people are actually against this. He failed a drug test three times. Student athletes have a set of expectations and most meet them with no problem. Clearly, those who chose to smoke make sure they aren't caught once or more than once. These two didn't even look like they cared. I wouldn't want that on my team. It may sting in the short term, but in the long run we've already been building. Stoglin wasn't part of the future.

    Hot Sauce

  • it wouldnt get publicized at uconn, it wouldve been swept under the rug like at any basketball factory.

    286A

  • carlterp said...

    Yeah, even unemployed 30 year olds like you who spend all day in their parents' basement typing comments on messageboards wearing nothing but their undies smoke weed.

    EVERYBODY knows that.

    this is killing me

    AlphaOmega said... im sorry i was confusing...your "Superbowl" was the Redskins losing since you know that the Ravens cant win it all.

    TheHugeManatee

  • 286 said...

    it wouldnt get publicized at uconn, it wouldve been swept under the rug like at any basketball factory.

    If they wanted it swept under the rug, it'd be swept under the rug.

    jsh

  • DarrellGreenFan said...

    To pretend that he won't be missed, or that Faust was somehow better, is just stupid.

    Anybody who would rather have Faust gone and Stoglin still on the team for the next 2 years, please say so here. Let's see who's "stupid".

    peteholbertsbak

  • 286 said...

    it wouldnt get publicized at uconn, it wouldve been swept under the rug like at any basketball factory.

    Lot easier to do that there, with the media, lack of similar historical background (Bias) and general lack of ethics.

    http://twitter.com/insidemdsports

    JeffErmann

  • What a craptastic week for Terps hoop news. Ugh.

    herlpug

  • TheArsenal said...

    I'm not trying to excuse Stoglin. But you seem to be saying that it's ok to require student athletes to do anything as long as you tell them in advance. I'm saying that drug testing for marijuana makes no sense and is punitive against student athletes who make a lot of money for their schools. I don't care if they tell everybody in advance or not - it's a stupid rule. (and yes, Stogs is dumb for failing 3x. College kids do dumb shit.)

    Do you gamble?

    Who uses, who doesn't, who knows it, and when? Sooner or later bodies might happen...

    This post was edited by sigman58 on 5/1/2012 at 12:06 PM

    sigman58

  • I'm almost more pissed at Stogs because it was just weed. At least with cocaine you could blame his faulty judgment on addiction, with weed it's nothing more than stupidy.

    Kids who smoke, you are shutting a lot of doors for something that is nothing more than one of lifes condements, and in Stogs case, who wouldn't give up pepper for a couple million.

    hokthu

  • why, because it's funny or because it describes you? haha...

    1988terp

  • wcterp said...

    If the university said that all scholarship basketball players have to rub their bellies and pat their heads at 2 pm every day, and this was well known before kids ever signed their LOIs, that's the agreement.

    Don't give Edsall ideas.

    SATerp

  • Baldwin said...

    Their only defending him because he was our best player this year and the best chance we had to make the tournament. If it were Parker who was suspended for failing 3 drug tests, no one would care.

    The point is that nobody is defending him. It's obviously stupid to smoke weed when you know a drug test is coming up, especially when you have two strikes. So stupid I can't believe it. The pepper analogy was perfect (and funny).

    OK, moving onto the point some of us are trying to make. Smoking weed is always going to be against university policy. The question is whether we should hold athletes to a higher standard than students by having mandatory drug tests for marijuana. Thousands of Maryland graduates every year have smoked weed. You know people who have done so and don't think they're dangers to society. The most sensible policy is one that says if you get caught you're in trouble just the same as all other Maryland students, but isn't so intense and hardcore as our current policy of mandatory drug testing that results in us losing an ACC POY candidate over something stupid. What is the benefit of this policy? Whatever it is, if there is any, there's a good argument that the costs are higher.

    LibertyTerp

  • LibertyTerp said...

    The question is whether we should hold athletes to a higher standard than students by having mandatory drug tests for marijuana.

    Of course they should - the athletic department is paying for the athlete's tuition, room and board, medical services, training services, academic support services - they have every right to list not smoking pot or doing other drugs as one of the requirements of receiving said services that the athlete gets for free and non-athletes do not.

    artielange

  • LibertyTerp said...

    The point is that nobody is defending him. It's obviously stupid to smoke weed when you know a drug test is coming up, especially when you have two strikes. So stupid I can't believe it. The pepper analogy was perfect (and funny).

    OK, moving onto the point some of us are trying to make. Smoking weed is always going to be against university policy. The question is whether we should hold athletes to a higher standard than students by having mandatory drug tests for marijuana. Thousands of Maryland graduates every year have smoked weed. You know people who have done so and don't think they're dangers to society. The most sensible policy is one that says if you get caught you're in trouble just the same as all other Maryland students, but isn't so intense and hardcore as our current policy of mandatory drug testing that results in us losing an ACC POY candidate over something stupid. What is the benefit of this policy? Whatever it is, if there is any, there's a good argument that the costs are higher.

    You people have NO SENSE OF HISTORY. The drug policy at Maryland and most other universities is a result of the death of Len Bias in 1986 and Gary McClain's (Villanova) SI article. This is not about the general student population. General student population gets caught, the University leaves it to the legal system to deal with. Maryland is not going to ignore drug use by it's student athletes. End of story,

    Come on out and get your whoopin!

    CaliforniaTerp

  • feartheturtle02 said...

    We are so small time. You don't suspend a 24ppg scorer for weed. At most you suspend him for 1 game1 against the sisters of the poor next season and say it was for curfew violations. We need someone who knows how to operate in our athletic department. The general student population isn't drug tested and suspended for a year. As long as he doesn't show up stoned for practice and game day, who cares? Man we suck fingergun

    completely agree.... this will go down as a complete injustice if it is indeed because of weed. I don't think we need to be more stringent on our student athletes than society at large is on themselves. I'm sure the powers that be that handed down that decision had a few stiff drinks in the evening with total impunity... so unfair.

    terpitude

  • Not the "end of story", we need to GROW UP and acknowledge that weed is not cocaine or crack or heroine. It's puritanical and juvenile.

    terpitude

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